[Farmall] I hate mice

Thu Dec 27 05:32:27 PST 2007

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: <soffiler at ct.metrocast.net>
To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Farmall] I hate mice

> And this relates to Farmalls... or any old tractors... HOW?
>
>
> Steve O.
>
> ----- Original Message Follows -----
> From: "Bobby Guilbeau" <bguilbea at bellsouth.net>
> To: "'Farmall/IHC mailing list'"
> <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Subject: Re: [Farmall] I hate mice
> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:08:43 -0600
>
> >James,
> >
> >Don't get me wrong I fully agree that something needs to be
> >done, but when big brother won't allow the smart management
> >of wildlife, forests, etc troubles will happen.  The poor
> >deer you guy's are dealing with will soon be running out of
> >food if they have not already.  Not to mention how many
> >people have had to die, due to automobile accidents they
> >have caused.  Just wait until they become so accustomed to
> >being around houses and get so hungry that they start
> >forcing their way into people's homes through doors and
> >windows.
> >
> >YES we do need a government, but I think most of you would
> >agree that it's gotten way out of hand.  "Big Brother" has
> >just got his hands in too much of our lives.  Hopefully we
> >will never see the transformation of our way of life into
> >Socialism, but it is headed that way isn't it.
> >
> >Soap Box off<grin>.
> >
> >
> >I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas and will have a
> >Blessed New year
> >
> >Bobby Guilbeau, Ranger
> >Evangeline Area Council - BSA
> >1771 Mountain Bayou Road
> >St. Landry, LA  71367
> >337-461-2921
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >[mailto:farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On
> >Behalf Of James Moran Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007
> >4:11 PM To: Farmall/IHC mailing list
> >Subject: Re: [Farmall] I hate mice
> >
> >Bobby-
> >It is a complex problem...
> >I want to protect my pool....a farmer wants to protect his
> >fruit trees....a tractor fan wants to protect his
> >machinery.  All of this in contrast to the natural desire
> >of indigenous species from doing what THEY want to do which
> >is, to say, survive.  There is no easy answer but there are
> >many questions. What best to do, I do not know.
> >JM
> >
> >Bobby Guilbeau <bguilbea at bellsouth.net> wrote: I guess they
> >don't realize yet that there way of managing wildlife is
> >hurting the animals more than helping them.  For some
> >reason today's society has a problem on being in the middle
> >of the road, your either right or wrong.
> >
> >We had a similar problem some years back with squirrel, the
> >population got so heavy that the older males started
> >castrating any younger males.  This soon got to the point
> >that no males in the area were able to reproduce. After it
> >was all said and done the squirrel population had all but
> >disappeared.  It was 4 years before we started seeing any
> >squirrels again. It's a shame they don't make a live trap
> >big enough so you can catch and relocate.....
> >
> >Bobby Guilbeau, Ranger
> >Evangeline Area Council - BSA
> >1771 Mountain Bayou Road
> >St. Landry, LA  71367
> >337-461-2921
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >[mailto:farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On
> >Behalf Of James Moran Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007
> >1:43 PM To: Farmall/IHC mailing list
> >Subject: Re: [Farmall] I hate mice
> >
> >Bob and all-
> >Well, the DEC "agent" came for a visit....nice fellow,
> >spent an hour or so looking around.  Bottom line, no
> >liberal nuisance permit.  I got something of what seemed to
> >be a "canned speech" about excessive deer populations,
> >suburban sprawl, and so forth.  He suggested that I (a)
> >increase the height of my pool fence enclosure, (b) put up
> >"snow fence" perimeter about six feet in parallel to the
> >permanent fence, (c) mix up a concoction of milk, egg, and
> >dish washing detergent and spraying about.  If what I would
> >judge to be a "bad situation" was to come up again, I would
> >be "justified" in making a kill.  However, to simply "pop
> >them off" at random would not be condoned. There it is.
> >JM
> >
> >Bob Currie  wrote: What is the DEC?
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "James Moran"
> >To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list"
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 6:37 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Farmall] I hate mice
> >
> >
> >>I already related to member Mike Sloane what happened at
> >>our house last  week (deer-wise).   Here are the broad
> >> strokes for the rest of you..... My wife and I get up at
> >> about 5 AM daily and, of course, it stays still  quite
> >dark at this time of year (things don't brighten up until
> >> maybe 7  AM).  We have been having more deer problems
> >than usual.  Behind our house
> >
> >> is an in ground gunite pool which is "closed" with a
> >> winter cover (some  water from rainfall sits on top of it
> >> , of course and it is now frozen).  This pool has been in
> >> place for well over twenty years and it is enclosed  by a
> >wooden fence that I built all that time ago.  It consists
> >of "top and
> >
> >> bottom" 2x4 horizontal cross member sections secured
> >> between 4x4 posts,  encased in concrete.  Between the
> >> horizontal lumber, vertical 1x1 slats  complete the
> >> enclosure, along with a gate that is chained closed.
> >Anyway, deer (this year) have been leaping the fence (four
> >> feet high or a  little more) and getting inside of the
> >> pool area.  They always came up  close to the house and
> >> would nibble the plantings my wife had placed  around the
> >outside of the pool fence, but had never venture inside of
> >> the  pool area.  I had noticed this atypical behavior and
> >> had called the DEC  about it.  I got some ridiculous
> >> "advice" from them over the phone, but I  DID report this
> >> , as I was concerned that a deer would step onto the pool
> > surface itself and, if things thawed, would break through
> >> and cause some  serious trouble.
> >> On this past Friday, we got us as usual and my wife left
> >for school around
> >
> >> 6:30.  When the sun came up, I looked out of the window
> >only to see a deer
> >
> >> wedged between a fence post and one of the vertical
> >> slats.  It was  "half-in/half-out" and still very much
> >> alive.  It was thrashing about and  obviously in
> >> distress.  I thought about just shooting it (I am NOT a
> >hunter and do NOT care for venison, BTW), but decided,
> >rather, to call the
> >
> >> DEC.  After about an hour, an officer showed up and we
> >went back to take a
> >
> >> look...he was even considering, maybe, trying to "free"
> >> the deer (a  "button buck" he told me...about a year
> >> old).  Upon examination, he chose  to shoot the deer and
> >> the remains were hauled out to the road where the  town
> >highway department collect same.  There was plenty of
> >> damage as a  result of this and why the damn deer elected
> >> to try to "bust through" the  tight confines of the fence
> >> , I cannot say. I know that this has been a long-winded
> >> story.  This day (12/26) some  authoritative fellow is
> >> going to pay me a visit.  My goal is a liberal  "nuisance
> >permit" to cull the herd(s).  I have friends who hunt and
> >> enjoy  the meat.  We will see what this guy says.
> >> Uggh!
> >> Jim
> >>
> >>
> >> Al Jones  wrote: Coyotes....
> >>
> >> We have em around here John.  Can't tell if they've made
> >> a dent in the deer population yet, but if we MUST have
> >> coyotes, I hope they eat all of 'em.  I'm not real crazy
> >> about the coyotes mind you, but if they'd eat about half
> >the deer in eastern NC--make that 2/3 of them--I could
> >> learn to live with them.  Either that, or I hope the deer
> >> eat all the yuppies' bushes and grass in Raleigh, Cary,
> >> Chapel Hill, and Charlotte. Then maybe the powers that be
> >>will start to care....
> >> Al
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >> [mailto:farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On
> >> Behalf Of John Hall
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 9:29 PM
> >> To: Farmall/IHC mailing list
> >> Subject: Re: [Farmall] I hate mice
> >>
> >> What I want is a critter that will take care of the deer!
> >>
> >> John Hall
> >>
> >>
> >>
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