[Farmall] I hate mice

Thu Dec 27 04:58:59 PST 2007

And this relates to Farmalls... or any old tractors... HOW?

Steve O.

----- Original Message Follows -----
From: "Bobby Guilbeau" <bguilbea at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Farmall/IHC mailing list'"
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Subject: Re: [Farmall] I hate mice
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:08:43 -0600

>James,
>
>Don't get me wrong I fully agree that something needs to be
>done, but when big brother won't allow the smart management
>of wildlife, forests, etc troubles will happen.  The poor
>deer you guy's are dealing with will soon be running out of
>food if they have not already.  Not to mention how many
>people have had to die, due to automobile accidents they
>have caused.  Just wait until they become so accustomed to
>being around houses and get so hungry that they start
>forcing their way into people's homes through doors and
>windows.
>
>YES we do need a government, but I think most of you would
>agree that it's gotten way out of hand.  "Big Brother" has
>just got his hands in too much of our lives.  Hopefully we
>will never see the transformation of our way of life into
>Socialism, but it is headed that way isn't it.
>
>Soap Box off<grin>.
>
>
>I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas and will have a
>Blessed New year
>
>Bobby Guilbeau, Ranger
>Evangeline Area Council - BSA
>1771 Mountain Bayou Road
>St. Landry, LA  71367
>337-461-2921
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>[mailto:farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On
>Behalf Of James Moran Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007
>4:11 PM To: Farmall/IHC mailing list
>Subject: Re: [Farmall] I hate mice
>
>Bobby-
>It is a complex problem...
>I want to protect my pool....a farmer wants to protect his
>fruit trees....a tractor fan wants to protect his
>machinery.  All of this in contrast to the natural desire
>of indigenous species from doing what THEY want to do which
>is, to say, survive.  There is no easy answer but there are
>many questions. What best to do, I do not know.
>JM
>
>Bobby Guilbeau <bguilbea at bellsouth.net> wrote: I guess they
>don't realize yet that there way of managing wildlife is
>hurting the animals more than helping them.  For some
>reason today's society has a problem on being in the middle
>of the road, your either right or wrong. 
>
>We had a similar problem some years back with squirrel, the
>population got so heavy that the older males started
>castrating any younger males.  This soon got to the point
>that no males in the area were able to reproduce. After it
>was all said and done the squirrel population had all but
>disappeared.  It was 4 years before we started seeing any
>squirrels again. It's a shame they don't make a live trap
>big enough so you can catch and relocate.....
>
>Bobby Guilbeau, Ranger
>Evangeline Area Council - BSA
>1771 Mountain Bayou Road
>St. Landry, LA  71367
>337-461-2921
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>[mailto:farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On
>Behalf Of James Moran Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007
>1:43 PM To: Farmall/IHC mailing list
>Subject: Re: [Farmall] I hate mice
>
>Bob and all-
>Well, the DEC "agent" came for a visit....nice fellow,
>spent an hour or so looking around.  Bottom line, no
>liberal nuisance permit.  I got something of what seemed to
>be a "canned speech" about excessive deer populations,
>suburban sprawl, and so forth.  He suggested that I (a)
>increase the height of my pool fence enclosure, (b) put up
>"snow fence" perimeter about six feet in parallel to the
>permanent fence, (c) mix up a concoction of milk, egg, and
>dish washing detergent and spraying about.  If what I would
>judge to be a "bad situation" was to come up again, I would
>be "justified" in making a kill.  However, to simply "pop
>them off" at random would not be condoned. There it is.
>JM
>
>Bob Currie  wrote: What is the DEC?
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "James Moran" 
>To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list" 
>Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 6:37 AM
>Subject: Re: [Farmall] I hate mice
>
>
>>I already related to member Mike Sloane what happened at
>>our house last  week (deer-wise).   Here are the broad
>> strokes for the rest of you..... My wife and I get up at
>> about 5 AM daily and, of course, it stays still  quite
>dark at this time of year (things don't brighten up until
>> maybe 7  AM).  We have been having more deer problems
>than usual.  Behind our house
>
>> is an in ground gunite pool which is "closed" with a
>> winter cover (some  water from rainfall sits on top of it
>> , of course and it is now frozen).  This pool has been in
>> place for well over twenty years and it is enclosed  by a
>wooden fence that I built all that time ago.  It consists
>of "top and
>
>> bottom" 2x4 horizontal cross member sections secured
>> between 4x4 posts,  encased in concrete.  Between the
>> horizontal lumber, vertical 1x1 slats  complete the
>> enclosure, along with a gate that is chained closed.
>Anyway, deer (this year) have been leaping the fence (four
>> feet high or a  little more) and getting inside of the
>> pool area.  They always came up  close to the house and
>> would nibble the plantings my wife had placed  around the
>outside of the pool fence, but had never venture inside of
>> the  pool area.  I had noticed this atypical behavior and
>> had called the DEC  about it.  I got some ridiculous
>> "advice" from them over the phone, but I  DID report this
>> , as I was concerned that a deer would step onto the pool
> surface itself and, if things thawed, would break through
>> and cause some  serious trouble.
>> On this past Friday, we got us as usual and my wife left
>for school around
>
>> 6:30.  When the sun came up, I looked out of the window
>only to see a deer
>
>> wedged between a fence post and one of the vertical
>> slats.  It was  "half-in/half-out" and still very much
>> alive.  It was thrashing about and  obviously in
>> distress.  I thought about just shooting it (I am NOT a 
>hunter and do NOT care for venison, BTW), but decided,
>rather, to call the
>
>> DEC.  After about an hour, an officer showed up and we
>went back to take a
>
>> look...he was even considering, maybe, trying to "free"
>> the deer (a  "button buck" he told me...about a year
>> old).  Upon examination, he chose  to shoot the deer and
>> the remains were hauled out to the road where the  town
>highway department collect same.  There was plenty of
>> damage as a  result of this and why the damn deer elected
>> to try to "bust through" the  tight confines of the fence
>> , I cannot say. I know that this has been a long-winded
>> story.  This day (12/26) some  authoritative fellow is
>> going to pay me a visit.  My goal is a liberal  "nuisance
>permit" to cull the herd(s).  I have friends who hunt and
>> enjoy  the meat.  We will see what this guy says.
>> Uggh!
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> Al Jones  wrote: Coyotes....
>>
>> We have em around here John.  Can't tell if they've made
>> a dent in the deer population yet, but if we MUST have
>> coyotes, I hope they eat all of 'em.  I'm not real crazy
>> about the coyotes mind you, but if they'd eat about half
>the deer in eastern NC--make that 2/3 of them--I could
>> learn to live with them.  Either that, or I hope the deer
>> eat all the yuppies' bushes and grass in Raleigh, Cary,
>> Chapel Hill, and Charlotte. Then maybe the powers that be
>>will start to care.... 
>> Al
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> [mailto:farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On
>> Behalf Of John Hall
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 9:29 PM
>> To: Farmall/IHC mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [Farmall] I hate mice
>>
>> What I want is a critter that will take care of the deer!
>>
>> John Hall
>>
>>
>>
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