[AT] Why Ground a Generator
Mary S Peak
marypeak at washington.usa.com
Sat Dec 15 12:08:49 PST 2007
As a female here I wouldn't want to sound dumb but when I use the
generator in my motorhome do I have to go out and put in a ground.
Mary.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dudley Rupert"
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
Subject: [AT] Why Ground a Generator
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:57:08 -0800
Maybe we can get a good argument going on generator grounding (but
treat
this as a wind chill free zone) -
Dudley
Snohomish, Washington
I would think that grounding the frame of a generator that has a drop
cord
or two plugged into it, as well as grounding one side of its' output,
would
ensure that IF a short ever developed between either of the output
terminals
and the frame of the generator then a potential difference
would/could not
be created between the generator frame and the
ground/concrete/grass/etc
that it's sitting on. In other words, the innocent bystander would
not get
shocked if he touched the generator and the chances of arcing between
the
generator and the ground would be lessened. Note: I wonder, however,
how
often the generator is ever grounded in this case.
BTW - This is the same grounding design as in the old steel power
tools that
had the 3-prong plug. The third prong, the grounding prong, connected
the
steel case of the power tool back through the ground wire to the
ground bar
in the service panel. The neutral wire (white wire) was also
connected to
the ground bar. The ground bar, of course, is connected to a ground
rod and
probably the copper/steel water pipes as well. I think good grounding
of a
generator with drop cords would/should. emulate the typical/good
service
panel ground design.
When it comes to a generator that is connected to the service panel I
don't
know. I would think, however, that if the generator neutral is
connected to
the frame of the generator (I have no idea on this ... would like to
hear
from someone who does) then I think one could argue that the service
panel
ground would ensure that the frame of the generator is kept at ground
potential and thus there would be no need to have a separate
generator
ground. However, I don't know what having one could hurt. If the
generator
neutral were not connected to the frame of the generator then it
would seem
that providing a ground for the generator would give the safety
benefits
described above.
WOILF (Way Out In Left Field) - Another case could be made for good
grounding of the power source but I am not sure how really applicable
it is
to the generator in the home environment (I don't think any at all).
But -
not that any old iron lover should care - in the avionics world it is
big.
A typical avionics unit, say a Flight Control Computer (Autopilot),
communicates (both inputting and outputting data) with literally
dozens of
other units. Protocols (i.e., ARINC specs) have been established to
govern
the precise transmission and reception of this data. For example, say
the
Flaps Control Unit uses a logic discrete to output to other units if
the
flaps are properly configured for takeoff. So, let's say the Flaps
Control
Unit does determine that the state of this discrete is True. In this
case
the protocol says it should output a DC voltage of 3.5 or less. The
protocol also says that any unit inputting this discrete should
consider it
True if it sees a DC voltage of 4.2 or less; otherwise consider it
False.
This communication requires not only good grounding of each unit
involved
but good grounding to a common source; that is, to the frame of the
airplane. Otherwise the design used in many units permits the ground
to
"float" to an undetermined state. Say, for example, the sending unit
is not
grounded, or not grounded well, to the frame of the airplane but that
the
receiving units are. Then it is a real possibility that the sending
unit
could be outputting, for example, say 2 volts with respect to its'
ground
(to indicate a True) but, if its' ground is at say +5 volts with
respect to
the frame of the airplane, then the receiving units will see this as
a +7
volt input and interrupt it as False. OK, way off the subject of
generator
grounding -
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