[Steam-engine] Boiler Inspections

[Lawrence Swanz]

Not sure what happened to my message...but there isn't suppose to be an exclamation mark in the middle of the word "items", as it is shown below.  That is not how I submitted the message...so the message should read, "But it is a far cry from where we were...and with time items of concern will be tweaked to be more suitable for all parties concerned."

Lawrence

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[mailto:steam-engine-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of
Lawrence Swanz
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:23 AM
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Subject: Re: [Steam-engine] Boiler Inspections


Ken,

I for one love to hear from you.  As for reciprocity...I was under the understanding that Minnesota and Wisconsin either were in the finals of it or darn close to it.  I know there is a hand-shake agreement with South Dakota between Minnesota and them.  At least it is for taking stuff from Minnesota to there.  I have shown my grandfather's 1/2 scale there and have never been required to have it tested over there.  I figure if your state does a boiler examination...one that you can show what the results are, then you should be allowed to run in any state.  But until we all sort of play under the same rule book, that most likely won't happen....even with the same rule book, it may not come to pass.  But at least with the new Appendix 'C', as Ken pointed out, most if not all items pertaining to historical boilers is covered.  Does this mean it is a perfect form...no, even the authors will attest to that.  But it is a far cry from where we were...and with time, I'm sure some ite!
 ms of concern will be tweaked to be more suitable for all parties concerned.  At least it is easier to read and understand.  A fella may not agree with all of its points...but you can read it and understand it.  That is a whole lot further ahead than we were a year or so ago.

Lawrence

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[mailto:steam-engine-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of
Ken Majeski
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:41 AM
To: Steam-engine mailing list
Subject: Re: [Steam-engine] Boiler Inspections



Well.... You Probably Don't want to hear from me... :) Here in Wisconsin we pretty much alternate between a Internal and a Hydro Every other year with a UT Every 5 years... There is rumor some inspectors are doing an In Service inspection also... At Least I know of one that has done some.
 
Problem we have is in the safty factors.... Some inspectors require 5... Some 4, Some will allow 4 with Proof of at least 55,000 Tensil strength.... I know of 2 guys that had to cut a piece out  and have it tested. Our inspectors will Not do UT... You have to have that done by somebody else...
 
The real Kicker is that so far ASME Boilers aren't required to UT at All... My Case was never UT'd for the state and was current untill July 2006. This was No Doubt a decision by someone that Didn't think that any ASME traction boilers were built.... Some engines are required to have 2 separate water feeds... While I see many at shows that only have one...????
 
Some of us are Kinda waiting on the "New Appendix C" which will put the Safety Factor and UT Issue in Black and White so we know where we stand....
 
So Far we have No Reciprocity but we are trying to get that changed....
 
I haven't had my engine inspected lately as I haven't taken it off the farm anyway....  Maybe if they get all the inconsistancies ironed out that could change.... ????Ken Majeski, Ellsworth Wis. Case Steam Engine, Rumely Oilpulls H, F & R. Bunch Of Gas Engines.

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