[AT] OT - Spyware problems

[charlie hill]

No Flames from me Larry.  I was thinking the same thing.

Henry your system isn't quite as clean as you think.  You are sending some 
sort of script with this e-mail.  Otherwise your reply to the thread and all 
subsequent replies woundn't be prompting me to down load an Arabic script 
set.

No offense meant to anyone.  I'm just not a member of the bash Bill Gates 
club.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Mason" <lcmason at uslink.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] OT - Spyware problems


> You know, this gets sort of tiresome. This is just a stupid comment. I 've 
> held off on attacks on IE for a long time ,but saying never to use it to 
> browse the web is just stupid.  In the last 20 years, I have had 1 
> virus(quickly and easily cleaned up) and no viruses  in the last 5 years.. 
> If you have a virus checker(Mcafee or Norton) and a spamware 
> checker(ad-aware or spybot) you won't have any problems. Saying otherwise 
> is just because of laziness or ignorance. Linux and MAC are just not 
> popular systems and so haven't been attacked They are full of holes too, 
> but why bother attacking them when they are only 10% of the market? I 
> admit I have not used Firefox, but my neighbor (a computer illiterate who 
> was told to use it by a computer Cog Noscenti) had all sorts of problems 
> (couldn't get anything to work) until I straightened it out for him. It 
> seemed no better than IE(admittedly this was the only time I worked with 
> Firefox)Your original statement to never use IE indicatesa lack of 
> knowledge of either the non-knowledgeable user or a totally egocentric 
> attitude. I have programmed computers since 1969, and the MAC/Windows 
> argument just reminds me of the Betamax/VCR problem. I am now putting on 
> my flame retardant helmet. Flame on.  Oh wait... the helmet fell off don"t 
> reply too soon ... oh no..... ahggggg!!!
> the former larrry Mason ---- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Henry Miller" <hank at millerfarm.com>
> To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 5:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] OT - Spyware problems
>
>
>> On Wednesday 13 September 2006 06:55, msm10301 at juno.com wrote:
>>> I'm having a big problem trying to get rid of a spyware item. 
>>> Bargainbuddy
>>> appears to be on my system. Ad-Aware caught it and I thought it was
>>> deleted, but it keeps coming back. If I delete it through Ad-Aware and 
>>> stay
>>> off the internet, I can scan again, and it will still be gone. However, 
>>> the
>>> minute I open IE and go to any website, I get it back when I scan again. 
>>> I
>>> tried Spybot, and it doesn't see it. Any help would be appreciated, it's
>>> very frustrating. Thanks,
>>
>> Lots of advice from people who know more than me, but it all missed a 
>> very
>> important problem: IE.
>>
>> NEVER, and I mean NEVER used IE to browse the web.   While Microsoft has 
>> made
>> it a lot better, it is still not to be trusted.  (P.S.  I assume you are
>> running Microsoft auto-updates.   This is a must, if not turn it on)
>>
>> Firefox is free, is generally better (though of course there is always a 
>> Case
>> vs JD when comparing products), and lets many fewer problems of this 
>> nature
>> through.
>>
>> http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/
>>
>> Alternatively you can use Opera - it costs money, but many people swear 
>> by it,
>> and has the same advantages over IE that firefox has.
>> http://www.opera.com/
>>
>> Ideally you would quit running Windows as administrator, but I know from
>> experience that you need a full time system administrator to do this.
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