[AT] OT - Spyware problems

[Larry Mason]

You know, this gets sort of tiresome. This is just a stupid comment. I 've 
held off on attacks on IE for a long time ,but saying never to use it to 
browse the web is just stupid.  In the last 20 years, I have had 1 
virus(quickly and easily cleaned up) and no viruses  in the last 5 years.. 
If you have a virus checker(Mcafee or Norton) and a spamware 
checker(ad-aware or spybot) you won't have any problems. Saying otherwise is 
just because of laziness or ignorance. Linux and MAC are just not popular 
systems and so haven't been attacked They are full of holes too, but why 
bother attacking them when they are only 10% of the market? I admit I have 
not used Firefox, but my neighbor (a computer illiterate who was told to use 
it by a computer Cog Noscenti) had all sorts of problems (couldn't get 
anything to work) until I straightened it out for him. It seemed no better 
than IE(admittedly this was the only time I worked with Firefox)Your 
original statement to never use IE indicatesa lack of knowledge of either 
the non-knowledgeable user or a totally egocentric attitude. I have 
programmed computers since 1969, and the MAC/Windows argument just reminds 
me of the Betamax/VCR problem. I am now putting on my flame retardant 
helmet. Flame on.  Oh wait... the helmet fell off don"t reply too soon ... 
oh no..... ahggggg!!!
the former larrry Mason ---- Original Message ----- 
From: "Henry Miller" <hank at millerfarm.com>
To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] OT - Spyware problems


> On Wednesday 13 September 2006 06:55, msm10301 at juno.com wrote:
>> I'm having a big problem trying to get rid of a spyware item. 
>> Bargainbuddy
>> appears to be on my system. Ad-Aware caught it and I thought it was
>> deleted, but it keeps coming back. If I delete it through Ad-Aware and 
>> stay
>> off the internet, I can scan again, and it will still be gone. However, 
>> the
>> minute I open IE and go to any website, I get it back when I scan again. 
>> I
>> tried Spybot, and it doesn't see it. Any help would be appreciated, it's
>> very frustrating. Thanks,
>
> Lots of advice from people who know more than me, but it all missed a very
> important problem: IE.
>
> NEVER, and I mean NEVER used IE to browse the web.   While Microsoft has 
> made
> it a lot better, it is still not to be trusted.  (P.S.  I assume you are
> running Microsoft auto-updates.   This is a must, if not turn it on)
>
> Firefox is free, is generally better (though of course there is always a 
> Case
> vs JD when comparing products), and lets many fewer problems of this 
> nature
> through.
>
> http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/
>
> Alternatively you can use Opera - it costs money, but many people swear by 
> it,
> and has the same advantages over IE that firefox has.
> http://www.opera.com/
>
> Ideally you would quit running Windows as administrator, but I know from
> experience that you need a full time system administrator to do this.
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