[Ford-ferguson] Re: Problem with 601 Workmaster
Jack Massimino
btyler at provide.net
Mon Sep 18 16:37:56 PDT 2006
Thanks guys. I am picking up a new coil and condenser on Wednesday when I
am out. I'll let you know how things go.
Jack in Michigan
> 1. Problem with 601 Workmaster (Jack Massimino)
> 2. Re: Problem with 601 Workmaster (Jason DeJoode)
> 3. Re: Problem with 601 Workmaster (Jack Eads)
> 4. Re: Problem with 601 Workmaster (David Bruce)
> 5. Re: Problem with 601 Workmaster (Mike Sloane)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:00:19 -0400
>From: Jack Massimino <btyler at provide.net>
>Subject: [Ford-ferguson] Problem with 601 Workmaster
>To: ford-ferguson at lists.antique-tractor.com
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>Hi all, I have been on the list for a few months and have enjoyed reading
>everything on here so far. I am new to having one of the types of
>tractor. I purchased this in December of 05. Now to my problem. When I
>got the tractor it ran great. Then at the beginning of June I was out
>brush hogging one of my fields and it started running real rough and was
>acting like it was running out of gas. I checked the tank and it seemed
>fine. I got it back to the barn just barely and shut it down so I could go
>look at my manuals. About an hour later I started it back up and it ran
>great again. After it warmed up it again started acting up. I checked the
>filter and it seemed clean but I replaced it anyway and then I took the
>drain out of the carb and made sure it was running gas out and no dirt. It
>all looked good. I called the local tractor place that I bought it from
>and they came and got it. I was told it was the carb and needed to be
>rebuilt. They did and brought it back. It did exactly the same thing so
>back they came and back to the shop. I was told that the guy who rebuilt
>it didn't do it right and the head guy re-did it. No charge this time as
>it should be. They even took it out and did some brush hogging at their
>place for about an hour. It was running great. I got it back and was able
>to hog my field and did so twice so far. Now today, I went out to do some
>hogging and it started doing the same thing after it got a little warm. I
>am at a loss. I know almost nothing about Fords and am at a loss as to
>where to go from here. Any help will be very greatly appreciated.
>
>Jack in Michigan
>
>
>
>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:05:35 -0500
>From: "Jason DeJoode" <jldejoode at highstream.net>
>Subject: Re: [Ford-ferguson] Problem with 601 Workmaster
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>Since the carb has been gone through, I'd look toward the electrical system.
>Either the coil or the condenser. When either gets old, they don't work
>properly and need to be replaced. I'd guess coil, but a condenser is cheap
>too and if it hasn't had a tune up in awhile maybe now is the time.
>
>That said, we had a ford 4000 4cyl. that would act up when it got hot and
>under a heavy load while bailing(going up a big hill on a hot day with a
>full wagon load). What happened there was the fuel was boiling in the fuel
>line that goes between the engine and the manifold. You could actually see
>the bubbles in the sediment bowl. But as soon as the load was off,
>everything was normal. So I'd be surprised if this was your problem. We
>sold the tractor because of this which was a shame because it was great
>otherwise. A couple of years later the silver heat wrap tape or sleeve for
>the auto racers became available. I'm sure it would have cured that problem.
>
>Jason
>
>Eagan, MN
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jack Massimino" <btyler at provide.net>
>To: <ford-ferguson at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 12:00 PM
>Subject: [Ford-ferguson] Problem with 601 Workmaster
>
>
> > Hi all, I have been on the list for a few months and have enjoyed reading
> > everything on here so far. I am new to having one of the types of
> > tractor. I purchased this in December of 05. Now to my problem. When I
> > got the tractor it ran great. Then at the beginning of June I was out
> > brush hogging one of my fields and it started running real rough and was
> > acting like it was running out of gas. I checked the tank and it seemed
> > fine. I got it back to the barn just barely and shut it down so I could
> > go look at my manuals. About an hour later I started it back up and it
> > ran great again. After it warmed up it again started acting up. I
> > checked the filter and it seemed clean but I replaced it anyway and then I
> > took the drain out of the carb and made sure it was running gas out and no
> > dirt. It all looked good. I called the local tractor place that I bought
> > it from and they came and got it. I was told it was the carb and needed
> > to be rebuilt. They did and brought it back. It did exactly the same
> > thing so back they came and back to the shop. I was told that the guy who
> > rebuilt it didn't do it right and the head guy re-did it. No charge this
> > time as it should be. They even took it out and did some brush hogging at
> > their place for about an hour. It was running great. I got it back and
> > was able to hog my field and did so twice so far. Now today, I went out
> > to do some hogging and it started doing the same thing after it got a
> > little warm. I am at a loss. I know almost nothing about Fords and am at
> > a loss as to where to go from here. Any help will be very greatly
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Jack in Michigan
> >
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>Message: 3
>Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 15:18:31 -0400
>From: Jack Eads <jackeads at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: Re: [Ford-ferguson] Problem with 601 Workmaster
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>Jack
>
>I can't help with your current problem, but it is good to hear from
>someone with a similar tractor. I inherited my uncle's 641
>workmaster. Just learning/beginning the restoration process. Will
>probably be looking for some advice as time go on.
>
>On Sep 17, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Jack Massimino wrote:
>
> > Hi all, I have been on the list for a few months and have enjoyed
> > reading everything on here so far. I am new to having one of the
> > types of tractor. I purchased this in December of 05. Now to my
> > problem. When I got the tractor it ran great. Then at the
> > beginning of June I was out brush hogging one of my fields and it
> > started running real rough and was acting like it was running out
> > of gas. I checked the tank and it seemed fine. I got it back to
> > the barn just barely and shut it down so I could go look at my
> > manuals. About an hour later I started it back up and it ran great
> > again. After it warmed up it again started acting up. I checked
> > the filter and it seemed clean but I replaced it anyway and then I
> > took the drain out of the carb and made sure it was running gas out
> > and no dirt. It all looked good. I called the local tractor place
> > that I bought it from and they came and got it. I was told it was
> > the carb and needed to be rebuilt. They did and brought it back.
> > It did exactly the same thing so back they came and back to the
> > shop. I was told that the guy who rebuilt it didn't do it right
> > and the head guy re-did it. No charge this time as it should be.
> > They even took it out and did some brush hogging at their place for
> > about an hour. It was running great. I got it back and was able
> > to hog my field and did so twice so far. Now today, I went out to
> > do some hogging and it started doing the same thing after it got a
> > little warm. I am at a loss. I know almost nothing about Fords
> > and am at a loss as to where to go from here. Any help will be
> > very greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Jack in Michigan
> >
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>Message: 4
>Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 17:50:59 -0400
>From: David Bruce <davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>Subject: Re: [Ford-ferguson] Problem with 601 Workmaster
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>Another thing to check.
>Look in the gas tank for some crud blocking the outlet. I had a similar
>problem with a diesel and upon draining and removing the fuel tank I
>found a small ball of "crud" blocking the outlet. Older fuel tanks are
>also prone to a buildup of rust, "varnish" and other junk. If the build
>up is floating in the gas it will eventually be pulled to the outlet.
>Also check to be sure that the vent in the gas cap isn't clogged. If it
>is, the tank will eventually pull a vacuum and prevent the gas from
>coming out. BTDT on a small boat motor <g>. The vent issue is simple to
>check and not so hard to fix.
>David
>NW NC
>
>Jack Massimino wrote:
> > Hi all, I have been on the list for a few months and have enjoyed
> > reading everything on here so far. I am new to having one of the
> > types of tractor. I purchased this in December of 05. Now to my
> > problem. When I got the tractor it ran great. Then at the beginning
> > of June I was out brush hogging one of my fields and it started
> > running real rough and was acting like it was running out of gas. I
> > checked the tank and it seemed fine. I got it back to the barn just
> > barely and shut it down so I could go look at my manuals. About an
> > hour later I started it back up and it ran great again. After it
> > warmed up it again started acting up. I checked the filter and it
> > seemed clean but I replaced it anyway and then I took the drain out of
> > the carb and made sure it was running gas out and no dirt. It all
> > looked good. I called the local tractor place that I bought it from
> > and they came and got it. I was told it was the carb and needed to be
> > rebuilt. They did and brought it back. It did exactly the same thing
> > so back they came and back to the shop. I was told that the guy who
> > rebuilt it didn't do it right and the head guy re-did it. No charge
> > this time as it should be. They even took it out and did some brush
> > hogging at their place for about an hour. It was running great. I
> > got it back and was able to hog my field and did so twice so far. Now
> > today, I went out to do some hogging and it started doing the same
> > thing after it got a little warm. I am at a loss. I know almost
> > nothing about Fords and am at a loss as to where to go from here. Any
> > help will be very greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Jack in Michigan
> >
> >
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>Message: 5
>Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 07:00:45 -0400
>From: Mike Sloane <mikesloane at verizon.net>
>Subject: Re: [Ford-ferguson] Problem with 601 Workmaster
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>The Ford 600/800 series tractors are pretty much standard technology for
>the late '50, so I would not be at all surprised if your problem isn't
>either the coil or the condenser, as others have mentioned. Old coils
>and condensers dry out and heat causes the kind of problem you describe.
>When it cools down, things return to normal. I had exactly the same
>problem with my 860, and it happened while I was plowing snow in the
>middle of the winter. Two carburetor rebuilds accomplished nothing, a
>new coil didn't help, but replacing the relatively new condenser finally
>solved the problem. (I normally would have started with the condenser,
>but since it was relatively new, I didn't trust my instincts.)
>
>Mike
>
>Jack Massimino wrote:
> > Hi all, I have been on the list for a few months and have enjoyed
> > reading everything on here so far. I am new to having one of the types
> > of tractor. I purchased this in December of 05. Now to my problem.
> > When I got the tractor it ran great. Then at the beginning of June I
> > was out brush hogging one of my fields and it started running real rough
> > and was acting like it was running out of gas. I checked the tank and
> > it seemed fine. I got it back to the barn just barely and shut it down
> > so I could go look at my manuals. About an hour later I started it back
> > up and it ran great again. After it warmed up it again started acting
> > up. I checked the filter and it seemed clean but I replaced it anyway
> > and then I took the drain out of the carb and made sure it was running
> > gas out and no dirt. It all looked good. I called the local tractor
> > place that I bought it from and they came and got it. I was told it was
> > the carb and needed to be rebuilt. They did and brought it back. It
> > did exactly the same thing so back they came and back to the shop. I
> > was told that the guy who rebuilt it didn't do it right and the head guy
> > re-did it. No charge this time as it should be. They even took it out
> > and did some brush hogging at their place for about an hour. It was
> > running great. I got it back and was able to hog my field and did so
> > twice so far. Now today, I went out to do some hogging and it started
> > doing the same thing after it got a little warm. I am at a loss. I
> > know almost nothing about Fords and am at a loss as to where to go from
> > here. Any help will be very greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Jack in Michigan
> >
> >
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