[Farmall] Steering gear lube
Paul Sigmund
pwsigmund at verizon.net
Thu Oct 12 14:02:20 PDT 2006
I used JD corn head lube in the steering reservoir on my 340U (with PS), and
it (so far) has cured the leakage thru the seals on the side steering arms.
I did not replace the seals. Basically it is a lighter grease ( #1 vs #2 as
I recall) than the standard bearing grease. But it is indeed a solid, and I
had to pump it in via a grease gun. My 340 required about 3 1/2 tubes.
Worked for me.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hall" <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
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Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Farmall] Steering gear lube
> Maybe it was on the tractor list guys were talking about using cornhead
> grease to fill leaking gearboxes. Might be worth looking into.
>
> John Hall
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Sloane" <mikesloane at verizon.net>
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> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 5:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Farmall] Steering gear lube
>
>
>>I don't know what is right or wrong, but all the H/M type steering
>>gearboxes I have seen, including the two I have owned, were filled with
>>grease. That seems to be the generally accepted way of dealing with
>>steering box leaking seals. The alternative is some serious major surgery,
>>and a couple of bucks worth of grease seems to do the job just fine.
>>
>> As far as the transmission, you may find that just draining enough out of
>> the housing to remove the water that has collected there may be
>> sufficient - 90 WT transmission oil really doesn't lose it lubricating
>> qualities over time. If the tractor has been sitting a week or so, all
>> the water will be on the bottom, so all you need to do is crack the
>> bottom plugs enough to let the water (and the usual crud and filings) run
>> out, then check the level and top it off, if necessary.
>>
>> Just my (cheapskate's) opinion, and other may feel free do suggest more
>> expensive alternatives. :-)
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Dean Vinson wrote:
>>> I made some more progress today on getting the M caught up on
>>> maintenance.
>>> Went around with a grease gun and the operator's manual to be sure I
>>> found
>>> all the fittings, then took the cover plate off the steering gear
>>> housing.
>>> The manual says to put 90-wt oil in there but it had some heavy grease
>>> instead, which seemed like a good idea so I added a little on general
>>> principle and closed it back up. So there's a lot of grease slopped
>>> around
>>> the worm and sector, but they're not literally bathed in it or in oil.
>>> Is
>>> that the general practice? I'm sure it'll be fine for the light use
>>> this
>>> tractor is going to get. My main concerns are (a) to keep the worm and
>>> sector from unnecessarily getting more worn, and (b) to not have oil
>>> oozing
>>> down the steering bolster.
>>>
>>> Item b seems like a definite possibility, too, if I put oil in there,
>>> since
>>> there's some noticeable play in the bolster when I turn the steering
>>> shaft
>>> and the worm gear starts to pull on the sector. There's maybe 3/32ds of
>>> an
>>> inch of slop in the position of the sector gear, front to back along the
>>> axis of the tractor. Looking at the parts book, I assume that means
>>> that
>>> either the "upper bolster pivot shaft thrust bearing" or the shaft
>>> itself
>>> are worn, or both. So even if the oil seals were new there'll be a lot
>>> of
>>> movement in there anytime I use the tractor. Unless Geoff Gauger
>>> spontaneously decides to come over to Ohio and rebuild this M, I suspect
>>> that worn bearing is going to stay exactly as it is for a very long
>>> time.
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, it's good to see that the worm and sector aren't in too bad
>>> shape, and to get some grease in all the various fittings. While I had
>>> the
>>> grille off I took the opportunity to mostly straighten out some dents,
>>> so it
>>> doesn't look too bad either. Before winter I still want to flush and
>>> refill
>>> the radiator, and drain and replace the transmission oil. I'm not sure
>>> if
>>> the PTO works so I may have to investigate that while I've got the
>>> transmission drained. Probably be one of those Saturday-afternoon
>>> projects
>>> that ends up taking about six times as long as I think it will.
>>>
>>> Dean Vinson
>>> Dayton, Ohio
>>> www.vinsonfarm.net
>>>
>>>
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>>
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