[Steam-engine] Nichols & Shepard

Thu Nov 16 10:33:20 PST 2006

Lawrence~
The big 30-98 Nick always puts on a heck of a show plowing at Fairview, OK and Pawnee.  The big side geared engine is a great puller, with a 12-bottom in tow, or the big two story house it pulls around the showgrounds.  The gearing is heavy, but not as wide as a Case or a big Gaar, but the Martens family keeps the old girl up really well.  They bored and bushed the intermediate gear a few years back and it's quiet.  They also poured all new babbitt on the crank mains two years ago.  It is a very impressive engine, as you well know.

I have also had a professional graphics outfit duplicate and print new N&S Decals, both styles (R.River Special & N&S) and can provide them for anyone who needs them for $10.00 each.  Email me offline with your info.

Jeff

--- LSwanz at superioriron.com wrote:

From: "Lawrence Swanz" <LSwanz at superioriron.com>
To: "Steam-engine mailing list" <steam-engine at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Subject: RE: [Steam-engine] Gauge adjustment.
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:17:56 -0600

Jeff,

I look forward to reading the "novel" on your "Joyland" 65hp Case, as I'm sure others are also.  On another side note...how did the plowing go with the big 30hp simple single side geared Nichols&Shepard?  According to some, one in particular, Nicholas&Shepard never built a decent plowing engine.  I won't sling any more mud myself, but I have always enjoyed a N&S engine.  Guess I was ruined on them.  They were one of my grandfather's more favorite engines ever built.  Good thing we all don't like the same thing, huh.  Hope your early winter is going well for you.  TTYL.

Andy, to bring this back to what was being discussed.  I, like Jeff Lund, have had good success with Kunkle safety valves.  I know a few others that won't speak so highly of them, but they have always worked for me.  As for the excessive blow down.  When you order a valve, one of the things you want to specify is the pressure blow down, besides having a good stainless steel seat to take the multiple pop-offs that we expect are valves to handle.  They do sell, for a reduced price, one with a soft seat, which won't stand up to more than one or two lifts before they start to leak.  Like anything, there are two sides to most topics.  Hope all works well with setting your steam gauge.  I have had pretty good luck with the ones I own.  Most are pretty accurate, within a few pounds, throughout their range.  My grandfather has a dead-weight tester for setting gauges, which is now in my possession, along with the extra steam gauge parts he acquired of the years.  Anyway, lot's of luc!
 k with getting your gauge more on tract.

Lawrence J. Swanz

-----Original Message-----
From: steam-engine-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:steam-engine-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of
Jeff Detwiler
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:52 PM
To: steam-engine at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: Re: [Steam-engine] Gauge adjustment.

Hello Andy~~ and all those in steamland~

I have some bad news for you.  Mace Archer, longtime friend and mentor of mine, passed away October 15th.  He had shared some of his knowledge with Harold, and Harold has a dead weight tester that works very well.

Mace had always made sure that each gauge he worked on was calibrated correctly within a close range of your MAWP, however, it is very difficult to get it accurate across the entire range of the gauge.  He would always preload the gauge about 5 pounds so the gauge would sit on -0- properly when not under steam.  These gauges are obviously very old, and most of the bourdon tubes in the ones that have been restored have had holes soldered in them, which can change their expansion properties, and thus their accuracy at different pressure levels.

I finally finished the novel on the Joyland 65~~ look for it in January's issue of Steam Traction, and the JI Case Heritage Eagle.

Stay warm!

Jeff Detwiler
Keck #1786
Joyland 65 #34844

--- pioneersop96 at yahoo.com wrote:

From: Andy glines <pioneersop96 at yahoo.com>
To: Steam-engine mailing list <steam-engine at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Subject: Re: [Steam-engine] Gauge adjustment.
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:50:48 -0800 (PST)

Thanks for the tips on gauge adjustment.  Mr Stark is
the one who set the needle to be accurate at 100psi. 
I will have to ask him if he can correct the error at
low pressure.  I met Mr Archer at Steam School a
couple of years ago.  I got the feeling that he wanted
to get away from repairing gauges but it might be
worth a call to make sure. This gauge is in great
condition it just needs to be properly adjusted.  Who
knows where I can get the puller needed to remove the
needle?

--- Richard Strobel <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com> wrote:

> Here's the only gauge repairman that I have listed,
> Andy.  My friend Corky 
> called a guy the other day and he said due to
> liability, he has stopped 
> repairing...may be this guy..not sure:
> 
> 
> Mace Archer
> phone 620-221-3271
> 
> Address:
> 16430 Us Highway 160
> Winfield, KS 67156-7526
> 
> Good Luck,
> RickinMt.
> PS: We have the same problem with our gauge.  We
> were VERY lucky that the 
> indicating needle just fell off.  Further
> investigation reavealed a worn 
> linkage(?) and the needle wouldn't move until the
> slop was taken up.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andy glines" <pioneersop96 at yahoo.com>
> To: "Steam"
> <steam-engine at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:12 AM
> Subject: [Steam-engine] Gauge adjustment.
> 
> 
> > I have a good 350 lb traction engine gauge.  The
> hand
> > has been set to be correct at 100psi.  While the
> gauge
> > is correct at 100 it is off by quite a bit at the
> > bottom of the range.  There is about 15psi before
> the
> > needle moved off of the pin.  Who should I contact
> > about adjusting the gauge so that is is more
> accurate
> > at lowere pressure?
> >
> > Andy Glines
> > Evansville, IN

Andy Glines
Evansville, IN

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