[Farmall] Difficult F14

[John Hall]

Now what are you going to do with it? Show it, play with it, take it all 
apart and paint it or abandon it under a shed and drag another rusty hulk in 
the shop? (Personally I like the last choice!!)

John

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ross Long" <relong at dybb.com>
To: "'Farmall/IHC mailing list'" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 8:27 PM
Subject: RE: [Farmall] Difficult F14


>I got a bottle of Marvel Mystery oil and pour some in the gas and the rest
> in the oil.  It worked, the valves are not sticking anymore.  The F14 is a
> live (finally).
>
> Ross
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of John Hall
> Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 5:47 AM
> To: Farmall/IHC mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Farmall] Difficult F14
>
> Marvel Mystery oil usually works fine. The dealer dad worked for gave that
> advice out often--especially for Cub Cadets.  Adding 2cycle oil would
> probalby do the same thing.
>
>
> Here is my concern. An engine with a lot of hours that has sticking valves
> is one thing. An engine that has just been rebuilt  is another. You may 
> need
>
> to pull the head and have the guides honed out some. Personally I would 
> try
> the M&M oil and run lots of $3 a gallon gas thru it first. You might spend
> $15 but if the problem clears up it'll be cheaper than sending the head to
> the machine shop.
>
> One other thing. If the stem to guide clearnce is a little tight and your
> valve springs are weak, that could contribute to the problem. If the head
> has to come off, have the machine shop check the spring, you may need to
> replace some of them.
>
> John
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Sloane" <mikesloane at verizon.net>
> To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 6:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [Farmall] Difficult F14
>
>
>> The advice I was always given was to use Marvel Mystery Oil. I don't know
>> if it would work, but it can't hurt.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Ross Long wrote:
>>> I found out what the problems was, it was sticking valves.  They seem
>>> real
>>> loose when not running, but I started it without the valve cover on and
>>> sprayed wd-40 on the valves when it started to miss and that stopped the
>>> miss.  A fee minutes after I spray the valves it will start to miss
>>> again.  Anyone have any ideas how to get these valves not to stick.  It
>>> was
>>> overhauled and the head was redone shortly before it was stored for a
>>> number
>>> of years.  They must be a little too tight.
>>>
>>> Ross
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>> [mailto:farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of John 
>>> Hall
>>> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 5:52 PM
>>> To: Farmall/IHC mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [Farmall] Difficult F14
>>>
>>> Looking back at the original post, you said you are definetly losing #4
>>> followed by an intermittent 1 and 3, correct? I can't see how that could
>>> be fuel related nor could it be the mag unless it was in the cap, wires
>>> or plugs. Try this next time it goes to missing--check the fire at the
>>> plugs by
>>>
>>> grounding a screwdriver to the frame. You need about 3/16 to 1/4 spark
>>> jump.
>>>
>>> If that checks out then spray some WD-40 in the intake with it running
>>> and see if it helps.
>>>
>>> As far as the fuel pump goes I agree with everything that has been said.
>>> I have had problems with the check valves, trash, and a worn out 
>>> pushrod.
>
>>> And
>>>
>>> a busted diaphragm on another tractor with a similair pump. But in all 
>>> of
>
>>> those cases the tractor wouldn't run at all.
>>>
>>> One final thought, is the intake manifold tight? You did say the tractor
>>> had
>>>
>>> been recently rebuilt didn't you? You may be fighting bad mechanic work
>>> from
>>>
>>> the last guy.
>>>
>>>
>>> Just some thoughts and ramblings.
>>>
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>>
>> -- 
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>> Allamuchy NJ
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