[AJD] Aftermarket Power Steering??? 2nd try

Wed Jan 25 17:26:42 PST 2006

Most of the add-on power units used a Saginaw pump that is the same as
used on many vehicles. They need a high pressure hose on one side and a
lower pressure return line. The high pressure is normally around
1800-2000 PSI. You can shim them for more pressure.  Somewhere I have a
link to them but I cannot find it. Newer pumps off of front wheel drives
have smaller pumps with remote reservoirs as well as better connections.

Steve W.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean VP" <deanvp at att.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 6:39 PM
Subject: RE: [AJD] Aftermarket Power Steering??? 2nd try

> Dee/Steve:
>
> It seems like the hoses needed to be "hell for stout" and as a result
are
> hard to route around to get them hidden. I'm trying to find out what
the
> flow and pressure requirements are.  I'm hoping that with maybe newer
hose
> technology, smaller and more pliable hoses could be used to allow a
little
> more flexibility in the routing. I can possibly see a way of getting
the
> reservoir between the gas tank and the crankcase cover but no way to
get the
> hoses connected as well. Maybe a different configuration tank would
solve
> the problem.
>
> If the doggone power steering didn't work so well, I'd just take it
off due
> to its ugliness. Don't really need the power steering but with a
loader on
> it sure is handy. I guess it does show what farmers did to solve a
problem
> when they didn't have factory power steering. I sure can see why one
would
> go to a salvage yard and try to find a factory setup off of a later
tractor.
> But quite a bit of expense and a whole bunch of work and then one ends
up
> with a "bastard" tractor. I doubt farmers gave a tinkers damn about
how it
> looked.
>
> This particular Behlen unit seems to work slightly better than the
factory
> power steering on my 520 and 620 but they haven't been "tuned up" yet
> either.  These units came out before JD introduced Power Steering in
1954 so
> these probably forced JD to provide a competitive solution.
>
> Dean A. Van Peursem
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
> Forbidden fruits create many jams!
>
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>
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf
Of
> Dee Schuyler
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 10:07 AM
> To: Antique John Deere mailing list
> Subject: Re: [AJD] Aftermarket Power Steering??? 2nd try
>
> Dean
> Fron the looks of the one on ebay it almost looks like that motor
could be
> mounted upside down, that would streamline things a little? and I am
pretty
> sure you could hide the reservoir
> any place you want?
> This is all guessing on my part as we never had power steering on any
of
> dads tractors.
> I had never owned a power steering tractor until the 820, and it was
great!
> I would think if just a matter of running hoses the unit would not
care
> where the reservoir
> was??
> Sorry not to be of more help.
> D
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dean VP" <deanvp at att.net>
> To: "AT JD" <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:47 AM
> Subject: [AJD] Aftermarket Power Steering??? 2nd try
>
>
> >I at one time had a Char Lynn(sp?) aftermarket Power Steering unit
mounted
> > on a 1949 A and now also have a Behlen aftermarket Power Steering
unit on
> > a
> > 1953 60 driven by a Behlen version of the live hydraulic pump
between the
> > Governor and the Distributor. Of this limited sample of two, the
Behlen
> > unit
> > works much better. However, the motor is much larger and requires an
> > external oil reservoir tank which is really ugly. The Char Lynn pump
was
> > mounted between the front frame rails behind the radiator and was
driven
> > by
> > the same belt that ran the generator. It too had an external
reservoir but
> > was neatly nestled between the radiator and the tappet cover.
Looked to
> > me
> > to be the same power steering unit used on automobiles or trucks.
But both
> > have the two ugly external hoses to the motors.
> >
> > Have any of you seen a way to mount the Behlen unit and external
reservoir
> > so it isn't so ugly? Any pictures of a nice clean mounting? Mine
works so
> > good I'm going to leave it on but I sure don't like the looks of it.
> >
> > There is a picture of a Behlen unit mounted on a 1953 60 on eBay
right
> > now.
> > See eBay auction # 7583791267.
> >
> > I am assuming this Behlen motor is also being driven by a pump
between the
> > governor and the distributor, like mine, but the pictures are not
clear.
> > It
> > does show the ugly reservoir. The Behlen pump looks very similar to
the JD
> > version. The 45 loader I'm sure is using up the live hydraulics of
the
> > Power-Troll.
> >
> > PS:  I continue to get a kick out of those of us who get exited
about
> > serial
> > #1 45 loader. Mine is serial #1 too. :-)  What it really identifies
is the
> > Series 1 version. I was a bit startled when I first saw that on my
45
> > loader
> > too. But... the excitement didn't last long. :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > Dean A. Van Peursem
> > Snohomish, WA 98290
> >
> > Forbidden fruits create many jams!
> >
> > www.deerelegacy.com
> >
> > http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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