SV: [AT] 3Ph, etc. now ramble (born free taxed till death)

CEE VILL cvee60 at hotmail.com
Tue Jan 10 15:08:24 PST 2006


This topic is thought provoking.   I just divided my last bill for 
residential 220v, single phase to see where I stand.   Is as follows:

$110.53 total bottom line / 842 KWH use for the month =$ .1313 / KWH.

I suspect this can be quite a lot more or less, depending where you park 
your collector tractors in the U.S.  I guess if I paid what Mattias pays, I 
would live in total darkness.

Charlie in WNY

>From: Mattias Kessén <mattias at linderson-mark-bygg.se>
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>To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'" 
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>Subject: SV: [AT] 3Ph, etc. now ramble (born free taxed till death)
>Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:48:42 +0100
>
>Well that is really a hard question to answer. We pay for the net on one
>bill and the electricity on one other. On the net bill we have one yearly
>fee that varies depending on the size of the headfuse/s, up to 3 times
>16A(standard) it's very small differences when you goes beyond that it
>becomes expensive. We pay the netowner (E.off)121 USD a year for 3X16A and
>then we pay them 2.85 cents/kWh. Then we pay our elctricitydistributor 23
>USD/year, 3.74 cents/kWh for electricity, 3.29 cent/kWh energytax and then
>we pay 0.36 cents/kWh as electricalcertifikatefee (fine word for another
>tax).
>	On all those fees we pay 25% VAT (incl. the taxes, at this point I think
>I'll have to clarify that I'm not kidding!). This means that we pay 180 USD
>a year (I believe that you could not even cut that in half if you go to
>single phase 6A) and 12.80 cents/kWh (6.21 are taxes and VAT) and we
>probably pay below average for swedish private customers.
>	Earlier we had cheap electricity here but now with a government in hands 
>of
>the enviromentalparty we don't. This means that the only industries (paper
>and metal) that have been reluctant to leave Sweden for low sallery
>countries also are dissapearing now. Before we know we will be in your 
>third
>world gang ;-)
>	Confused? Blame the Swedish government. I have no intention to start a
>political conversation but I believe it would have been impossible to 
>answer
>your question without mentioning some politics. As tractor referense I can
>tell you that since I don't use my David Brown other than on the farm I
>don't have to pay tax for it :-) but I have to pay a yearly 5 USD
>registerkeepingfee (again not kidding).
>	If this don't get to the list in a few hours (I had messages undelivered
>for weeks lately) it's definetively the governments fault!
>
>Mattias
>Born free! Taxed till death.   (and in fact probably even after death)
>
>-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
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>[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]För Cecil Bearden
>Skickat: den 10 januari 2006 14:59
>Till: Antique tractor email discussion group
>Ämne: Re: [AT] 3Ph, etc.
>
>
>Mattias:
>What does power cost in your country.  Here, I am a small user of 3 phase
>and I think it runs about $.11 per KWH   single phase is about $.10 per 
>KWH.
>we are on an electric Cooperative.
>
>Cecil in OKla
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