[AT] Rivet how-to USB

[Steve W.]

 My Dell 8200 has onboard USB 1.1 and I added a new card for USB 2.0
into it. I have the keyboard and mouse in the original USB ports, a hub
in there and a new scanner and printer in the new card along with two
external hard drives and a card readed. They are all happily running
along just fine. I think the BIG item is the chipset on the board. Also
have a parallel port printer on this machine.

Steve W.



> Most modern computers are not set up to allow for that.  There can
only
> be ONE Root USB controller in the system.  If you disable the one that
> is built in on the mother board, then you have to be able to pick up
all
> its current ports.  That could include all the drives (hard, floppy,
CD,
> DVD, etc), card slots, keyboard, mouse, WI-FI, normal serial ports,
game
> controller slots, Ethernet...
>
> There's a reason why late model computers do not have parallel
ports --
> all peripheral devices except the monitor are controlled through the
> root USB.  If your computer is of such a vintage that its USB
controller
> is not integral with the mother board but rather that it is a plug-in
> along with direct connections to other peripheral cards, then you
stand
> a chance of disabling it, but it isn't going to be a simple process.
> The days of separate driver cards for every peripheral are gone.
>
> Even on laptops which still have parallel ports on them, everything
else
> is running through the root USB controller.  You can disable some of
the
> existing ports, but disabling the whole controller is a different
level
> of manipulation.  You should be able to tell from the Device Manager
> program whether the entire hierarchy of your computer runs through the
> Root USB controller or not.
>
> Larry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Thomas O.
> Mehrkam
> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 9:53 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Rivet how-to USB
>
> It is possible to get a add in card that has USB 2.0 on it and use
that
> instead of the one on the motherboard.
>
> You can probably disable the USB port in the BIOS and reclaim the
> resources it uses.
>
> Larry D. Goss wrote:
> > Well, the bottom line is that you probably can't upgrade the
machine.
> > If the Root of the USB is 1.0, it's probably built in on the
> motherboard
> > and you're stuck with it.  That's only a problem if you let it be.
> All
> > USB systems are pyramidal in structure.  The breadth and depth of
the
> > pyramid is basically unlimited, but there can only be one controller
> > operating on the system.  The standard says when a USB 2.0 device is
> > detected logically below a USB 1.0 device, a warning message has to
be
> > displayed on your monitor.  But the standard also says that if a
> > consumer can physically connect devices together as they are
> > manufactured (without cutting and splicing, etc) he or she has the
> > expectation that the system WILL WORK, and the manufacturers are
> > obligated to support that.  As a result, you can cancel out all the
> > warning messages that appear down by the icon tray and go merrily
> ahead
> > using the system.  The only degradation will be in communication
> speed.
> >
> > Not all USB devices are built to the latest standard, and they won't
> be.
> > There isn't any reason to construct many computer devices to 2.0
> because
> > it just makes them more expensive and doesn't effect their
operation.
> > Items such as keyboards, tablets, and mice fall into this category.
> > Almost all of them are USB 1.0.  That's one of the reasons why the
> > communication cables on those devices are permanently fastened to
the
> > end device -- that's part of the Standard.
> >
> > If your All-in-one has a detachable data cable, it has to be
operating
> > at the later standard.  If you hot plug your printer into your
> computer
> > while the computer is running and you get the warning message on
your
> > monitor, then you know that your root USB hub on the mother board is
> > going to be a bottle-neck and slow down communications of high
> > resolution images both going and coming from the printer.  You'll
> either
> > have to live with it or scrap your computer.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> > DAVIESW739 at aol.com
> > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 5:44 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [AT] Rivet how-to
> >
> > Larry the printer is setup for Blue tooth I may try to see if I can
go
> > to
> > that with my old Sony Vaio 1.7.  The cable and the book says 10.5
ft.
> > max so I
> > should be OK with 10 ft.  I do have the 1.0 USB though I  think I
may
> > have to
> > upgrade to 2.0  if possible on this machine. So far I  really like
> this
> > multifunction printer the pictures that it makes are just like  the
> real
> > thing you
> > would hard presses to tell the difference and with the new  inks
they
> > say 30
> > years in all weather and 100 years archived that's not bad.
> >
> > Sometimes I take my Generator and Compressor both to shows its nice
to
> > have
> > the power around when needed.
> >
> > Walt  Davies
> > Cooper Hollow Farm
> > Monmouth, OR 97361
> > 503 623-0460
> >
> >
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