Factory oil recommendations (was Re: [Farmall] parts

[George Willer]

Mike,

Very well said, and my thoughts exactly.  

Here's a fer instance: Most folks recommend Hy-Tran for our Cub hydraulic
systems, evidently thinking it contains some magic other fluids lack.  It's
very name should suggest it is formulated for HYdraulics and TRANSmissions.
Hydraulics alone don't require all its' properties.  Here's what I think a
hydraulic system needs:
  1.  A fluid that doesn't compress
  2.  A fluid that doesn't foam
  3.  A fluid that doesn't attack gaskets and seals.
  4.  A fluid that lubricates moving parts
  5.  A fluid that tolerates temperatures nearly as high as an engine
  6.  A fluid that is priced reasonably

On my score card, Hy-Tran doesn't do very well when compared to most
anything else... It gets only a 5, and most any other hydraulic fluid gets a
6.

I know Case recommends what they sell, and a barber will always think you
need a haircut. That's what he's selling.

I hope and pray that using an alternative won't void my 60 year warranty.

George Willer

> -----Original Message-----
> From: farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:farmall-
> bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sloane
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 8:16 AM
> To: Farmall/IHC mailing list
> Subject: Factory oil recommendations (was Re: [Farmall] parts
> 
> Please remember that the recommended lubricants found in antique tractor
> manuals were for the best available at that time. In the 30-60 years
> since then, petroleum industry chemists have come out with far superior
> lubricants to what was available back then. So today, even the cheapest
> discount store brand multiweight oil is better for your tractor than the
> best single weight non-detergent oil of 1955 (or whatever). Like the
> writer below, I also use a good quality (NAPA) 15W-40 diesel grade oil
> in everything - diesel truck, diesel tractor, a dozen gas tractors, lawn
> mowers, etc. I buy it in bulk and pump it into everything but my chain
> saws. I have never had an engine fail due to inadequate lubrication (or
> any other reason).
> 
> I see the same myth being perpetuated about using Hy-Tran in IH
> hydraulic systems, and those who claim that only Hy-Tran will work
> properly resort to the same "it's in the manual" argument. What they
> refuse to believe is that the modern "equivalent to Hy-Tran" hydraulic
> fluids are far superior to the IH Hy-Tran of the 1948 era.
> 
> The lesson is that technology does not stand still. You wouldn't want to
> be using he same tires they made in 1950, you don't use alcohol for
> antifreeze, and anyone who lives in a colder climate would agree that a
> 12 alternator with solid state regulator is far superior to a 6 volt
> generator and mechanical regulator. And it is the same with petroleum
> products.
> 
> My opinion, of course, and worth exactly what you paid for it.
> 
> Mike
> 
> Ferg8n9n at aol.com wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 1/30/2006 7:42:53 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> > jthall at worldnet.att.net writes:
> >
> > I  noticed you are using multi wieght oil. I don't know how much it
> would do
> > to help but we never run anything but 30W, same as is reccomended by
> IHC.
> >
> >
> >
> > i think factory oil is always a good idea. Since I have many engines in
> both
> > hot an cold climates, I use 15- 40 diesel oil in everything, and I have
> not
> > had a problem since I quit penzoil in 1964. It cost no more.
> >    By the way, in 1964 my mentor told me I would never, ever  see a pro
> > mechanic put pennzoil in his own car, and i never  have,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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