[AJD] GP thoughts and comments, was: Where to find extensive information about the JD GP?
kreig
astroguy at nas.com
Mon Aug 7 22:03:40 PDT 2006
All the things you mention here certainly bring together the puzzle, THANK
YOU!!!
My GP is #222141
The tool boxes I have seen all have a 1/8" diameter hole located on the lid
centered on the non-hing edge. Definately not a home made hole as all are
the same.
The replacement air cleaner explains why the radiator does not have the bolt
hole.
I will need to run out and look at the parts tractor and see if there is
anything remotely looking like a pto attachment.
This is all great information.
Kreig
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Ostrander" <antiquejd at fwi.com>
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Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 4:11 PM
Subject: RE: [AJD] GP thoughts and comments,was: Where to find extensive
information about the JD GP?
> Kreig-
> You have some good questions. Dad is having some internet issues so I
> will
> try to answer your questions.
>
> First, I did not notice your serial number in your posts. That will help
> with what is correct and what is not.
>
> Next, the radiator cap on most 1930's had the wire clip under AD641 which
> was D1567R, D1568, & D1569. In the 1931 parts book, AD86 replaced AD641
> and
> the serial numbers are not present.
>
> Toolboxes had a hole and most of them were mounted so the hole came out
> the
> front and it did indeed hold the hose of the grease gun. We have often
> wondered if individual assemblers at the plant took the liberty of placing
> lids on differently or mounting the hole to the back. The majority we
> have
> witnessed are to the front though. I have never had a toolbox with a hole
> on top and suggest that it was a farmer modification. All standards had a
> hole in the toolbox. Widetreads did not have a hole and mounted on the
> transmission cover.
>
> The lever to engage and disengage the PTO is C1621 for Standards 218675
> and
> up, WT's 402040 and up, and all orchards. Prior to that, it was the 90
> degree lever that went right into the transmission case as you described.
>
> The radiator sides are C257R, C1910R & C1911R. The latter two are left
> and
> right sides for the big bore tractors. C257R was for small bore tractors
> 200111 - 223802. The early style did not have a bolt hole through them to
> attach the air cleaner because the early tractors had the air cleaner down
> low in the belly pan. The retrofit kits the dealers installed took the
> air
> cleaner out of the belly pan and raised the opening for air to enter
> outside
> and above the hood. The 1930 tractors had the hole in the radiator sides
> and the pipe to bring air in went through the hood and above it. Some
> late
> 1929 tractors also had that same style.
>
> Power lift was used to raise the mounted implements on the GP's.
> Standards
> had PTO and Power Lift as options, Widetreads had them as standard
> equipment. We have a 3 row mounted cultivator that will be demonstrated
> at
> the show in a few weeks. The buck rake also used the lift as well as the
> two way mounted plow.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]On Behalf Of
> kreig
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 4:04 PM
> To: Antique John Deere mailing list
> Subject: [AJD] GP thoughts and comments,was: Where to find extensive
> information about the JD GP?
>
>
> In regards to the GP's, I am interested in knowing more simply because I
> own
> one. A 1930 GP in good running condition, needing a few parts here and
> there and not really knowing what parts are needed. Have been looking at
> and comparing GP's at shows and my impression is that no two GP's were
> EVER
> built the same!!!
>
> Seems there are about 4-5 ways to run the spark plug wires, about 10
> different configurations for air cleaners and exhaust.
>
> I found an original tool box off a parts tractor and am finding they came
> in
> two versions, one with a large hole at the front and some without. In
> pictures i see some holes are empty while in other pics I see there is
> something attached. In conversation this last weekend I was told the hole
> was made to accomodate the "dirty" end of the grease gun. True??? There
> is
> a small hole on the top of the tool box and appears to have no function,
> no
> knob is seen in the parts catalog.
>
> Never could figure out what kind of handle was needed to actuate the PTO.
> Some tractors have a non-removable 90 degree handle for the PTO while
> others
> seem to have a missing handle. This last weekend I found the "correct"
> handle on a 1935 model and will make a reprodution for my 1930. This looks
> like part number #AC-573-R Hope this is correct. I also see in the
> parts
> catalog, number C-2118-R. There are no part numbers on this handle.
> At the show there was a 1930 GP next to mine with the 90 degree handle, go
> figure!!!
>
> Also the radiator casting #C-257-R seems to come in two versions, one
> with a bolt hole on the right side to attache the air cleaner and the same
> casting and casting number without this mounting hole. Wondering why I
> have
> the mismatched set of air cleaner/radiator setup. Thinking if it is worth
> picking up a replacement radiator casting to make things "correct".
>
> I was surprised to look through the owners/operators manual and there
> seems
> to be no mention how to operate the machine, how to activate the PTO or
> anything else, seemed rather strange. Have never seen a GP with power
> lift
> and not sure what it is designed to do.
>
> Ok, I guess that is enough in one posting.
>
> Kreig McBride
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Ostrander" <mrgp at fwi.com>
> To: "'Antique John Deere mailing list'"
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> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 2:16 PM
> Subject: RE: [AJD] Where to find extensive information about the JD GP?
>
>
>> Kreig
>>
>> Several books provide some general information about the GP family of
>> tractors, but as yet, no one book with detailed info. I have been
>> collecting
>> data for some time, but not much written down. Would be glad to attempt
>> to
>> answer your questions.
>>
>> There will be a GP Rally Sept 5-6-7, 2006 near Columbia City. We expect
>> to
>> have enough GP knowledgeable people to answer most of your questions. For
>> more info email me at
>> mrgp at fwi.com
>>
>> Paul O
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
>> kreig
>> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 3:31 PM
>> To: Antique John Deere mailing list
>> Subject: [AJD] Where to find extensive information about the JD GP?
>>
>>
>> Is there an all inclusive document about the JD model GP?
>>
>> Who is the "expert" on GP's?? I have 1,000 and one questions.
>>
>> Kreig
>>
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