[AT] New product panics (was) Detroits

Cecil Bearden crbearden at copper.net
Tue Aug 1 14:54:51 PDT 2006


I have seriously considered using dry nitrogen in my old truck tires to 
prevent dry rot.  I understand it helps.  At $200 a tire replacement cost, 
it might be worth it.

Last Friday, my dad decided to run the old 4010 with Farmhand loader down to 
the pasture to pull the Deere 830 swather off a stump he stuck a guard into 
while cutting.  The 830 does not have a very good reverse..  He takes off in 
his usual Damn the Torpedoes speed, I was on the other side of the barn 
trying to get a mud pump started to go fix a leak under the house.  For some 
reason he comes around the barn and then turns the wrong way and runs the 
left side of the loader into the rigtht front tire of the Fire truck I 
brought back from New Jersey.  It had been setting on 6 inch blocks with all 
brakes on, while I was working on the valves underneath.  He hit the tire 
just inside the first groove, knocked a chunk out of the tire about 6 inches 
wide clean down to the cords, and shoved the truck off the blocks about 3 ft 
without ever stopping.  When I found it on saturday morning, I asked him 
about it and he proceeds to tell me how He started out in too high of a gear 
and how lucky he was that that tire was all that was damaged!!!  A 10.00 X 
20 Hwy tread is about $200 and it will take 2 because that truck handled 
like a dream    I had it next to the barn with over 60 feet between it and a 
fence....  Go Figure.  Yep, I sure was lucky!!

Cecil in OKla
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Knierim" <ken.knierim at gmail.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] New product panics (was) Detroits



The discussions about using detergent motor oils after using
non-detergent oils in an old engine still come up from time to time.

What about the folks using dry nitrogen in their tires instead of just
plain old compressed air? that sounds like a heckuva sales job on
someone's part. "tire pressure remains more equal" or some such. While
it may be true (ever so slightly), who's gonna know the difference
unless they're racing?

Ken in AZ



On 8/1/06, Indiana Robinson <robinson at svs.net> wrote:
> On 1 Aug 2006 at 8:06, charlie hill wrote:
>
> > Jim I was repeating something I heard on a radio talk show.  I can't
> > remember exactly which one but it was one of the vehicle repair/advice 
> > shows
> > on XM Satellite radio.  I don't know if it correct or not but it was
> > supposed to be a very recent notice.  It might be totally rumor for all 
> > I
> > know.   I was only half way listening as I was driving.  I think they 
> > were
> > saying something about buildup on the valves but I'm not sure.
> >
> > Charlie
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim & Lyn Evans" <jevans at evanstoys.com>
> > To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:05 PM
> > Subject: RE: [AT] Detroits
> >
> >
> > > I found your statement surprising, so I looked on the net.  Detroit 
> > > has a
> > > couple of documents out there.  One says that 20% biodiesel is ok 
> > > (2002),
> > > the other says 5% is ok (2005).  The both say that they will not 
> > > warranty
> > > any fuel problems.  However, I don't think anyone warranties any fuel
> > > problems- no matter what kind of fuel.  If you put in bad fuel, there 
> > > is
> > > no
> > > warranty.  That is just common sense.
> > > The statement about valves doesn't make sense, since bio diesel has 
> > > better
> > > lubrication than #2.
> > >
> > > Jim
> >
>
>
>
>         Most of us that have been knocking around for a while
> (which is probably most of us)   <(^¿^)>   can probably recall
> all sorts of new developments that came with all manner of
> the most dire warnings... We also recall that most of those
> warning were totally groundless in the real world. The ones
> that were real were usually sorted out in the first few years.
>         My mother bought a new Dodge Aspen SE wagon in 1978.
>  Lean-burn 318.
>  She started out from the very first tank of fuel burning absolutely
> nothing but gasohol. The horrible warnings were coming out of
> the woodwork about how it was going to ruin everything from the
> gas tank to the oil drain plug.   <(^¿^)>   She drove it daily for
> maybe 16 years without problem. When she bought another car
> I took it and drove it another 5 years or so. It was still a good car
> when I sold it and all that was ever replaced was the computer
> box twice, a starter and an alternator, maybe a water pump...
> We listend for years to warnings about how we were ruining it.
>         Back years ago when radial tires were somewhat new it was
>  announced often that if you took one off you HAD to put it back on
> turning the same direction. When you rotated them it WAS REQUIRED
> that they be remounted turning the same direction. The warnings
> were so dire that you were almost afraid to use reverse...   <(^¿^)>
> I never gave it a huge amount of thought, it was just what you were
> supposed to do. Then one day I happened to notice that there were
>  no direction arrows and the used (and recap) tire business
> ignored direction completely when mounting or dismounting except
> for whitewall in or out...
>         Another was the "end of the world" warnings about mixing radials 
> and
> bias ply tires on the same car. Then it was OK to mix if the fronts and
>  rears were pairs. I don't even recall now but I think that the bias were
> supposed to go on the back. While I run all radials now I have ran (and
> so have a lot of other people) all sorts of tire mixes in daily driving
> without any problem. Now I wouldn't recommend that for speed demons
> or on race cars but if you drive the speed limit if it affects handling in 
> a
> serious manner you car has other problems.
>         BTW, it was not too long after all of those most dire warnings
> about bad handling that
> they then started issuing us those truly stupid little awful handling 
> space
>  saver spares which many people seem to think are OK to run 80 MPH on.
> I equate them to putting a work boot on one foot and a flip-flop thong
> shoe on the other. (we used to call them "thongs" but that means another
> item these days.   <(^¿^)>
>
>         How many other "mostly groundless" (in the real world) dire 
> warnings
> can you remember from over the years?
>
>
>
> --
> "farmer"
>
> "The greatest mistake you can make in life is to be
> continually fearing you will make one."
> Elbert Hubbard (1856 - 1915)
>
>
> Refurbished Shopsmith's
> Good used SPT's
> http://www.indiana-robinson.0catch.com/
>
>
> Francis Robinson
> Central Indiana, USA
> robinson at svs.net
>
>
>
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