[AJD] Unusual looking Model L

Thu Sep 15 19:11:39 PDT 2005

agree with your statement Dean but some errors will never be corrected 
....partially because the writer believes he is correct.....partly because 
the writer has stretched the truth or omitted some of the real facts.....

Frank
gremaux at tein.net
Central Montana
http://www.angelfire.com/mt/deeregp/index.html
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean VP" <deanvp at att.net>
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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 1:47 PM
Subject: RE: [AJD] Unusual looking Model L

>I too agree with JR's desire to have all authors publishing accurate data.
> However, there are those in the publishing field who consider themselves 
> the
> "correct police" who criticize other publisher's mistakes when they
> themselves have dirty linen. One needs to be careful how critical one
> becomes unless one is dealing from a reference of perfection. I know of no
> author who has published anything w/o significant errors. The desire to 
> get
> those errors corrected in a timely matter is more important to me that the
> fact the errors occurred to begin with.
>
> Dean A. Van Peursem
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
> Forbidden fruits create many jams!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> Bus Driver
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:03 PM
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> Subject: Re: [AJD] Unusual looking Model L
>
> I strongly agree with JR and appreciate the information he posted. For 
> those
> who wish to investigate a matter further, wrong information hinders such a
> search. NEVER has a newspaper quoted me correctly and rarely do they get 
> my
> letter to the editor correct. Locally a full gasoline tanker crashed into 
> a
> bridge support on the Interstate and burned. The bridge collapsed. It was
> reported that the weight of the HOT asphalt bridge surfacing caused the
> collapse. Until informed by the media, I had no idea that HOT asphalt
> weighed more than it does when cold.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "J.R. Hobbs" <jrhobbs2004 at yahoo.com>
> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 11:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [AJD] Unusual looking Model L
>
>
>> Well, I guess you're entitled to your opinion.  Parts of the story are
> true, sort of, but development of a small tractor didn't begin at Deere at
> the behest of just one man. No doubt that the man mentioned  certainly may
> have had some input on the design, and may have done some field testing, 
> but
> I know for a fact that work had begun before 1936.  There are other errors
> in the story as well, but I won't dwell on them. The first "Y", and "62"
> Tractors certainly didn't sell for $375.00. The timeline described in the
> story just plain is not true.  There were other inaccuracies as 
> well----The
> President of Deere at the time was Charles Deere Wiman, not John Deere
> Wyman, etc.
>>
>> The point is, when this kind of stuff gets published, it somehow becomes
> "fact", and I guess that I just don't like to see inaccurate information
> published. I have no problem with a tribute to someone. I just want it to 
> be
> factual, because these kinds of errors do the hobby a disservice, in my
> view.
>>
>> And, quite frankly, I'm sick to death of the "correct police" bullshit,
> which is a favorite term on a website I won't bother to mention.  I don't
> believe that being correct as possible with information and/or restoration
> is wrong.  The term is misunderstood, anyway, as it was coined to describe
> those people who think they know it all, but actually don't know much of
> anything, yet feel that they have the right to criticize the work of 
> others.
> I've not yet seen a restoration I couldn't find a flaw in if I looked hard
> enough, but it's not my business to say anything about it to the owner.
> Most people do the best they can with the knowledge they have, and the
> budget they have to work with. On the other hand, there are people who 
> take
> no little pride in doing as many things as wrong as they can, because they
> somehow percieve that it's going to irritate people. That's their choice, 
> I
> guess.
>>
>> Chris C <jdnutinwa at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> JR -
>>
>> I think that's pretty poor to poo poo a story in
>> a local paper about a piece of history returning to
>> the area, with the story being told be family members
>> about the actions of another family member.
>>
>> I don't know enough about the background behind
>> the design of that tractor to know the truth, but I
>> wonder who would twist the truth more? The
>> manufacturer of the machine, or the guy that designed
>> or helped design it.. Sound like the correct police
>> to me...
>>
>> Or perhaps I am just oversensitive given my highly
>> agitatable state...
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> --- "J.R. Hobbs" wrote:
>>
>> > Not tonight, Frank, I have a headache. :-)
>> >
>> > Frank wrote:J>R>
>> > tell us more.........
>> >
>> > Frank
>> > gremaux at tein.net
>> > Central Montana
>> > http://www.angelfire.com/mt/deeregp/index.html
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "J.R. Hobbs"
>> > To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
>> >
>> > Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 1:27 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [AJD] Unusual looking Model L
>> >
>> >
>> > > Nice tractor. Parts of the story are even almost
>> > true.
>> > >
>> > > Louis R Godena
>> > >
>> >
>>
> wrote:http://www.southbendtribune.com/stories/2005/09/09/local.20050909-sbt-
> MICH-B1-Homecoming_parade_of.sto
>> > >
>> > > And, good story too!
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