In a message dated 9/6/2005 8:25:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Edchainsaw at aol.com writes: could the figures quoted form that GM test be from an E85 test.. (that would make the figures jive with what I have read in other places from your quote) YES. Walt Davies Cooper Hollow Farm Monmouth, OR 97361 503 623-0460