[Farmall] running a Farmall H on ethanol

[Tommy Wilson]

And the USDA doesn't have a horse in that race either......OK, back to 
antique tractors....

At 01:52 PM 9/4/05 -0400, you wrote:
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>On 9/4/2005 at 9:19 AM Tommy Wilson wrote:
> >That is if you throw away all the studies that show that it burns just as
> >much dinosaur fuel to produce the ethanol so you aren't saving anything in
>
> >the end. It does help the farmers, but doesn't save any fuel....
> >
>
>Not to pick on you Tommy, but I have seen this on the AT tractor list too
>and I hear it often enough elsewhere -  I can't keep quiet.
>
>In short:  This is an untrue rumor that just won't die.  All crops based
>fuels have better efficiency than anything else.  Below is just one study
>in dozens that have shown it.  It is a USDA/DOE research on whether biofuel
>should displace solar and petrochemical fuels but specifically discusses
>this point.  Here is the link:
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel
>
>To quote for those who don't want to read the whole article right now:
>
>" A 1998 joint study by the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) and the U.S.
>Department of Agriculture (USDA) traced many of the various costs involved
>in the production of Biodiesel and found that overall, it yields 3.2 units
>of fuel product energy for every unit of fossil fuel energy consumed. [3]
>That measure is referred to as the energy yield. A comparison to petroleum
>diesel, petroleum gasoline and bioethanol using the USDA numbers can be
>found at the Minnesota Department of Agriculture website. In the comparison
>petroleum diesel fuel is found to have a 0.843 energy yield, along with
>0.805 for petroleum gasoline, and 1.34 for bioethanol. The 1998 study used
>soybean oil primarily as the base oil to calculate the energy yields. It is
>conceivable that higher oil yielding crops could increase the energy yield
>of Biodiesel."
>
>I wanted to post this to straighten out the facts so folks can make
>informed choices.  Also I needed to steer discussion back to subjects
>antique tractors are relevant in (-;   Rising this nation's fuel would be
>relevant.
>
>PS  The USDA says ethanol is has 1.62 efficiency ratio, not the 1.34
>Minnesota found
>
>Spencer Yost
>Owner, ATIS
>Plow the Net!
>http://www.atis.net
>
>
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Tommy Wilson
Hattiesburg, MS
1950 IH H
1951 JD B
1952 IH SC