[AT] Gasoline $ another view

[charlie hill]

Hi Dudley,  I always seem to make that same mistake or at least have to stop 
and think....hmmm is it 33 or 42.  Something comes in a 33 gal barrel but I 
don't know what it is.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dudley Rupert" <drupert at premier1.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: RE: [AT] Gasoline $ another view


> George,
>
> As I said a few minutes ago in my response to Mike's post I was wrong when 
> I
> said a barrel of crude contains 33 gallons.  Just as I know a gallon of 
> milk
> contains 4 quarts I know a barrel of crude contains 42 gallons but what I
> don't know now is why I was thinking last night that it was 33 gallons.
>
> In Mike's post he gave the breakdown of a 42 gallon barrel and it shows 
> that
> the gasoline content is a bit less than half.  In the refining process I
> don't know whether or not there is an economical way to "forcibly" change
> the ratio; that is, can you get more gasoline and say less home heating 
> oil
> or vice versa.
>
> Dudley
> Snohomish, Washington
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]On Behalf Of gwill at toast.net
> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 7:31 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: RE: [AT] Gasoline $ another view
>
> Dudley,
>
> Thank you for a rational, rather than an emotional response to this 
> thread.
>
> It's very easy for us as greedy consumers ( we channel our greed toward
> looking for the lowest possible, and maybe unreasonable price)to condemn
> greedy suppliers (who are simply trying to sell a product in short supply 
> at
> a reasonable price).
>
> If we look rationally, we can easily see that the price at the pump
> represents a contract between a willing buyer and a willing seller.  We 
> want
> to buy it for $.399 and they can't sell it for less than it costs them to
> have it available at the pump.  If the price is more than you're willing 
> to
> pay, walk on by the pump... they won't be mad.
>
> Why do any of us have to commute long distances?  Because of poor choices 
> we
> made about where we live or work... that isn't the fault of our fuel
> supplier, nor should it be the responsibility of the taxpayer to give us
> relief.
>
> Of course we need a national energy policy, and to ignore the "greenies".
>
> Question:  Is the 33 gallons you quote the actual gasoline contained in a 
> 42
> gallon barrel of crude?
>
> George Willer
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dudley Rupert [mailto:drupert at premier1.net]
> Sent: 9/1/2005 2:54:26 AM
> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> Subject: RE: [AT] Gasoline $
>
>> This is not political ether (so please don't try and make it such) but
> just
>> an observation -
>>
>> I was just reading part of an interview that a Sunoco executive in
> Colorado
>> gave to a News outlet earlier today.  He said that if the US had more
>> refinery capacity it would certainly alleviate some of the short-term
> stress
>> on the market that is caused when a refinery is shut down for maintenance
> or
>> when a disaster strikes it.  And he noted that there hasn't been a new
>> refinery built in the US in the last 25 years.  But he went on to say 
>> that
>> our bigger problem is long term and it is the lack of an adequate supply
> of
>> crude.
>>
>> If as a nation we are unwilling - for whatever reason - to explore/drill
> for
>> new sources of crude (for example, in ANWAR or the Santa Barbara channel)
>> and to build more nuclear power plants to help solve our near term energy
>> needs and to make a national commitment (like the Kennedy commitment to
> put
>> a man on the moon by the end of the sixties) to finding alternative 
>> energy
>> sources then it seems to me we shouldn't be surprised when we see the
>> numbers we do on the gas pumps.  A barrel of crude contains 33 gallons 
>> and
>> with crude trading at 65 to 70 dollars a barrel it means that when a crew
>> docks a tanker and starts loading it costs them 2 dollars a gallon.
> Adding
>> in the shipping costs, refinery costs, federal and local gas taxes and a
>> little markup for the retail station it's not surprising that the first
>> digit on the gallon cost at the pump is fast becoming a "3".
>>
>> Since the first of the summer I've bought 27 cans of gas and 4 cans of
>> diesel to run my hobby tractors ... I think I may have to permanently 
>> park
>> them and start looking for a hybrid antique tractor.
>>
>> Dudley
>> Snohomish, Washington
>
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