[AT] Gasoline $ another view

[Bob Seith]

Petroleum chemists took on this challenge decades ago. The Burton 
"cracking" process demonstrably increased the percentage of gasoline 
obtained from a barrel of crude. I think the "catalytic" cracking 
process of today increases the yield even more.

Bob Seith


Dudley Rupert wrote:

>George,
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>As I said a few minutes ago in my response to Mike's post I was wrong when I
>said a barrel of crude contains 33 gallons.  Just as I know a gallon of milk
>contains 4 quarts I know a barrel of crude contains 42 gallons but what I
>don't know now is why I was thinking last night that it was 33 gallons.
>
>In Mike's post he gave the breakdown of a 42 gallon barrel and it shows that
>the gasoline content is a bit less than half.  In the refining process I
>don't know whether or not there is an economical way to "forcibly" change
>the ratio; that is, can you get more gasoline and say less home heating oil
>or vice versa.
>
>Dudley
>Snohomish, Washington
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>-----Original Message-----
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>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>Subject: Re: RE: [AT] Gasoline $ another view
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>Dudley,
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>Thank you for a rational, rather than an emotional response to this thread.
>
>It's very easy for us as greedy consumers ( we channel our greed toward
>looking for the lowest possible, and maybe unreasonable price)to condemn
>greedy suppliers (who are simply trying to sell a product in short supply at
>a reasonable price).
>
>If we look rationally, we can easily see that the price at the pump
>represents a contract between a willing buyer and a willing seller.  We want
>to buy it for $.399 and they can't sell it for less than it costs them to
>have it available at the pump.  If the price is more than you're willing to
>pay, walk on by the pump... they won't be mad.
>
>Why do any of us have to commute long distances?  Because of poor choices we
>made about where we live or work... that isn't the fault of our fuel
>supplier, nor should it be the responsibility of the taxpayer to give us
>relief.
>
>Of course we need a national energy policy, and to ignore the "greenies".
>
>Question:  Is the 33 gallons you quote the actual gasoline contained in a 42
>gallon barrel of crude?
>
>George Willer
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Dudley Rupert [mailto:drupert at premier1.net]
>Sent: 9/1/2005 2:54:26 AM
>To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>Subject: RE: [AT] Gasoline $
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>>This is not political ether (so please don't try and make it such) but
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>just
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>>an observation -
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>>I was just reading part of an interview that a Sunoco executive in
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>Colorado
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>>gave to a News outlet earlier today.  He said that if the US had more
>>refinery capacity it would certainly alleviate some of the short-term
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>stress
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>>on the market that is caused when a refinery is shut down for maintenance
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>or
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>>when a disaster strikes it.  And he noted that there hasn't been a new
>>refinery built in the US in the last 25 years.  But he went on to say that
>>our bigger problem is long term and it is the lack of an adequate supply
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>of
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>>crude.
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>>If as a nation we are unwilling - for whatever reason - to explore/drill
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>for
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>>new sources of crude (for example, in ANWAR or the Santa Barbara channel)
>>and to build more nuclear power plants to help solve our near term energy
>>needs and to make a national commitment (like the Kennedy commitment to
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>put
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>>a man on the moon by the end of the sixties) to finding alternative energy
>>sources then it seems to me we shouldn't be surprised when we see the
>>numbers we do on the gas pumps.  A barrel of crude contains 33 gallons and
>>with crude trading at 65 to 70 dollars a barrel it means that when a crew
>>docks a tanker and starts loading it costs them 2 dollars a gallon.
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>Adding
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>>in the shipping costs, refinery costs, federal and local gas taxes and a
>>little markup for the retail station it's not surprising that the first
>>digit on the gallon cost at the pump is fast becoming a "3".
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>>Since the first of the summer I've bought 27 cans of gas and 4 cans of
>>diesel to run my hobby tractors ... I think I may have to permanently park
>>them and start looking for a hybrid antique tractor.
>>
>>Dudley
>>Snohomish, Washington
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