[AT] re : hayride / accidents

Wed Nov 2 13:54:28 PST 2005

I don't think I said that.  You need to read my post again.

Charlie
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From: "Almost-Running Deere" <deereman1000 at hotmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] re : hayride / accidents

> Maybe but that doen't given trucks the right to run them down either.  The 
> truck driver has a little safety responsibility as well. Very cold not to 
> feel for the people that were killed and example of what is wrong with the 
> world when we say "those people were killed but it was their fault"
>
>
>>From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at cox.net>
>>Reply-To: Antique tractor email discussion group 
>><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
>><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>Subject: Re: [AT] re : hayride / accidents
>>Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 11:41:12 -0500
>>
>>No doubt that the truck driver was in the wrong (unless there is more to 
>>the story that we havn't heard).  The folks on the wagon were 
>>right....DEAD RIGHT.  Just becuase it's legal or right doesn't mean it's 
>>safe.
>>
>>Charlie
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Almost-Running Deere" 
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>>Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 11:04 AM
>>Subject: RE: [AT] re : hayride / accidents
>>
>>
>>>A couple of years ago my neighbor got hit by a guy who reached down to 
>>>answer his cell phone.  Both the tractor and grain wagon had flashing 
>>>lights and SMV signs.  It was broad dayligh.  Last I heard if you hit 
>>>anything from behind, it is your fault even if it is a slow moving car. 
>>>Let alone if you are drunk.   In the area where I live there is 
>>>increasing development but it is not uncommon to see farm equipment on 
>>>the roadmany people to not repect it or provide sufficient 
>>>clearence..........  Still not Ok to hit it because it isn't moving to 
>>>suit you.
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "Dudley Rupert" <drupert at premier1.net>
>>>>Reply-To: Antique tractor email discussion group 
>>>><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
>>>><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>Subject: RE: [AT] re : hayride / accidents
>>>>Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 23:07:53 -0800
>>>>
>>>>It seems to me that this accident - like probably many if not most - can 
>>>>be
>>>>viewed from several different angles.  I am just curious if those of you 
>>>>who
>>>>are inclined to unload on the tractor driver would feel any differently 
>>>>if
>>>>say the tractor were pulling a wagon loaded with corn rather than with 
>>>>kids?
>>>>When in farming country I would think that a tractor is not an 
>>>>unexpected
>>>>object to be encountered on public roads and further that if it is lit 
>>>>up
>>>>with lots of lights then it wouldn't be abnormal to expect to encounter 
>>>>one
>>>>on the road at night (I say this having no idea what the statutes are in 
>>>>the
>>>>locality where the accident occurred so this may be just hot air). 
>>>>Anyhow,
>>>>if the truck driver had of hit a wagon loaded with corn then I would 
>>>>think -
>>>>just my opinion mind you - that the tractor driver would sue the truck
>>>>driver for damages on behalf of the lost corn and damaged wagon/tractor 
>>>>and
>>>>for any pain/suffering/lost work that he incurred due to being hit.  In 
>>>>the
>>>>case of this accident, unfortunately, the wagon didn't have corn in it 
>>>>but
>>>>rather kids and for this I am sure we would all give the tractor driver 
>>>>a
>>>>big S for stupidity.  But, from a purely objective standpoint, I don't 
>>>>see
>>>>what the contents of the wagon - as long as they are legal - would have 
>>>>to
>>>>do with determining blame/liability.  I believe that the tractor driver,
>>>>while having done a foolish thing with tragic consequences, should not 
>>>>be
>>>>held liable.  But ... my opinion is irrelevant as I am sure multiple 
>>>>suits,
>>>>involving multiple defendants, will be brought.  And as I said above, 
>>>>this
>>>>accident can be viewed from different angles and this is probably not 
>>>>the
>>>>right one to be viewing it from.
>>>>
>>>>Just my rambling/opinion -
>>>>Dudley
>>>>Snohomish, Washington
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]On Behalf Of Dave Rotigel
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 1:50 PM
>>>>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>Subject: Re: [AT] re : hayride / accidents
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >You  know this tractor was lit up like a cristmas tree with big
>>>>flashing
>>>> >lights I  don't care if the trailr was totally dark how could you miss
>>>> >seeing the
>>>> >tractor  and if you were close your lights would surley light up the
>>>> >trailer I
>>>> >think the  semi driver is Deep Do Do on this one.
>>>> >Then why would you go for a hayride on  a freeway. We use back road 
>>>> >and
>>>> >pasture trails out here.
>>>> >Walt  Davies
>>>>
>>>>The guy driving the tractor got EXACTLY what he deserved! Too bad about 
>>>>the
>>>>others who were hurt or killed!
>>>>          Dave
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