[AT] re : hayride / accidents
David Bruce
davidbruce at yadtel.net
Wed Nov 2 13:42:34 PST 2005
I'm not arguing fault and, of course, the people affected didn't deserve
anything like that but again I say better to be wrong than to be DEAD RIGHT.
Fault is one thing but regardless of who is at fault the people affected were
affected.
David
Almost-Running Deere wrote:
> Maybe but that doen't given trucks the right to run them down either.
> The truck driver has a little safety responsibility as well. Very cold
> not to feel for the people that were killed and example of what is wrong
> with the world when we say "those people were killed but it was their
> fault"
>
>
>> From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at cox.net>
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>> Subject: Re: [AT] re : hayride / accidents
>> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 11:41:12 -0500
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>> No doubt that the truck driver was in the wrong (unless there is more
>> to the story that we havn't heard). The folks on the wagon were
>> right....DEAD RIGHT. Just becuase it's legal or right doesn't mean
>> it's safe.
>>
>> Charlie
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Almost-Running Deere"
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>> Subject: RE: [AT] re : hayride / accidents
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>>
>>> A couple of years ago my neighbor got hit by a guy who reached down
>>> to answer his cell phone. Both the tractor and grain wagon had
>>> flashing lights and SMV signs. It was broad dayligh. Last I heard
>>> if you hit anything from behind, it is your fault even if it is a
>>> slow moving car. Let alone if you are drunk. In the area where I
>>> live there is increasing development but it is not uncommon to see
>>> farm equipment on the roadmany people to not repect it or provide
>>> sufficient clearence.......... Still not Ok to hit it because it
>>> isn't moving to suit you.
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: "Dudley Rupert" <drupert at premier1.net>
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>>>> Subject: RE: [AT] re : hayride / accidents
>>>> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 23:07:53 -0800
>>>>
>>>> It seems to me that this accident - like probably many if not most -
>>>> can be
>>>> viewed from several different angles. I am just curious if those of
>>>> you who
>>>> are inclined to unload on the tractor driver would feel any
>>>> differently if
>>>> say the tractor were pulling a wagon loaded with corn rather than
>>>> with kids?
>>>> When in farming country I would think that a tractor is not an
>>>> unexpected
>>>> object to be encountered on public roads and further that if it is
>>>> lit up
>>>> with lots of lights then it wouldn't be abnormal to expect to
>>>> encounter one
>>>> on the road at night (I say this having no idea what the statutes
>>>> are in the
>>>> locality where the accident occurred so this may be just hot air).
>>>> Anyhow,
>>>> if the truck driver had of hit a wagon loaded with corn then I would
>>>> think -
>>>> just my opinion mind you - that the tractor driver would sue the truck
>>>> driver for damages on behalf of the lost corn and damaged
>>>> wagon/tractor and
>>>> for any pain/suffering/lost work that he incurred due to being hit.
>>>> In the
>>>> case of this accident, unfortunately, the wagon didn't have corn in
>>>> it but
>>>> rather kids and for this I am sure we would all give the tractor
>>>> driver a
>>>> big S for stupidity. But, from a purely objective standpoint, I
>>>> don't see
>>>> what the contents of the wagon - as long as they are legal - would
>>>> have to
>>>> do with determining blame/liability. I believe that the tractor
>>>> driver,
>>>> while having done a foolish thing with tragic consequences, should
>>>> not be
>>>> held liable. But ... my opinion is irrelevant as I am sure multiple
>>>> suits,
>>>> involving multiple defendants, will be brought. And as I said
>>>> above, this
>>>> accident can be viewed from different angles and this is probably
>>>> not the
>>>> right one to be viewing it from.
>>>>
>>>> Just my rambling/opinion -
>>>> Dudley
>>>> Snohomish, Washington
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]On Behalf Of Dave Rotigel
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 1:50 PM
>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] re : hayride / accidents
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >You know this tractor was lit up like a cristmas tree with big
>>>> flashing
>>>> >lights I don't care if the trailr was totally dark how could you miss
>>>> >seeing the
>>>> >tractor and if you were close your lights would surley light up the
>>>> >trailer I
>>>> >think the semi driver is Deep Do Do on this one.
>>>> >Then why would you go for a hayride on a freeway. We use back road
>>>> and
>>>> >pasture trails out here.
>>>> >Walt Davies
>>>>
>>>> The guy driving the tractor got EXACTLY what he deserved! Too bad
>>>> about the
>>>> others who were hurt or killed!
>>>> Dave
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