[Farmall] Images of Jim Moran's McCormick Deering 10-20, etc.

James Moran jrmoraninc at yahoo.com
Sat Nov 19 10:19:40 PST 2005


OK, guys...drum roll, please.
  
 1.   The serial (as best I can tell after rubbing with light oil) is  KC146512.  That (obviously) is 6 digits.  Now, that having  been said, I would add that the "1" following the "KC" does NOT look  like the other stamped digits.  It almost looks as if that  specific "1" is a separation between the "KC" letters and the balance  of the serial plate.  Now, perhaps the machine that produced the  tag "hit harder" on that "1".  I only bring this up because one of  you suggested that there may either 5 or 6 digits following the "KC"  part of it.  If (what appears to be that first "1") is some sort  of a separation as opposed to a true, intended imprint of that number  AND if M/D ever used 5 digits as opposed to 6, that would make some  level of difference to the most particular of you.  For what it is  worth, I would bet that the number is KC146512.  Then again, what  do I know?
  2.  The mag is a Fairbanks Morse Type RM.  This is clearly  not the original.  For example, the "kill" is not attached at the  operation platform.  There IS a spring metal kill switch just to  the right front edge of the mounted magneto.  My guess would be  that, if the mag swap-out took place on Golden Road at some point  around the dawn of time, that original is lurking around the premises  somewhere, as these folks NEVER threw away ANYTHING!
  Any more questions or issues, fire away.
  JM

Bob Currie <tractors at foothill.net> wrote:  
>Anybody recognize the magneto on Jim's 10-20?  Maybe Fairbanks-Morse?  It 
>doesn't look like an IHC product.
>I like that starting instruction decal.  Where is it on the tractor?
>*********************
Jim, I've waited awhile to add my 2 cents worth, but I'd like to add to 
others comments. You seem to be focusing on the mechanical issues right 
now, with some good advice from list members so I would like to talk of the 
over all machine. First of all, that is a very nice original 10-20. 
Especially with some of the original paint still showing, and much of the 
original decals, or "transfers" as they were called in those days. You are 
calling it a a 1925 model but I would question that. On the serial plate 
attached to the fuel tank support is a five or six digit serial number 
which is proceeded by "KC". It may take a little rubbing, or use of some 
fine steel wool, but it appears from the picture that the other stamped 
numbers on that plate are readable, so I'm thinkin' the serial number would 
be also.  That serial number will tell us what year the tractor was 
produced. As Karl mentioned, and from the picture, it appears the magneto 
is a later model Fair Banks Morse, possibly a  type "FM", which I have on 
one of my McCormick Deerings.  It was common to upgrade from the old IH 
model E4A or Splitdorf 46C, if it truly is one of the earlier 10-20 
McCormicks. But the main reason I question the model year, is the exhaust 
positioning. In mid year 1929, they re-positioned that exhaust  pipe. For 
the earlier models it  ran back through the fuel tank support stand and 
then turned 90 degrees to face outward. There was no cut out in the side 
curtain. The tractors produced in late 29 and thereafter had the bottom 
rear of the left side curtain cut out to accommodate the rerouting of that 
exhaust pipe. From the picture, I can't see the lower portion of your side 
curtain as it is turned upside down, but the exhaust pipe is plainly 
visible and looks to be the later style.  I would also add that the intake 
and exhaust manifolds appear to be in excellent shape, which is a 
tremendous plus in the preservation of your tractor. Karl also mentioned 
the fuel mixture decal. It is in excellent shape wherein you can still make 
out the gold border. I have only seen this decal in pictures of the Farmall 
Regular, F-20 and F-30. So I too would be interested in knowing exactly 
where it is positioned on the tractor and it's exact size. Any close up 
digital photos would be appreciated. I have had several requests to re 
produce this decal and would like to know more about yours.  Lastly, I 
would mention that the only part I see missing from the tractor is the air 
breather cap and screen which attach to the top of the air intake pipe. No 
big deal, as they are readily available. I believe your efforts are 
worthwhile if you care about  the older farm and industrial machinery. You 
have an excellent example of an original, unaltered  10-20 standard, which 
displays much work history as it quietly sits there in your shop.

bobcurrie
ps. pull the head off and you'll probably find what needs fixin'


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