[AJD] late B

Sun May 29 08:18:47 PDT 2005

In the auto industry, some cars are built more than a year ahead of their 
model year and the early ones are a year old when some of the later ones are 
built but are still the same model year.

Bruce Mahr

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rev Gerber" <drgerber at fuse.net>
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Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 7:37 AM
Subject: RE: [AJD] late B

> I'm not sure how any of this differs from the auto industry.  The new
> cars for 2005 actually are in the show room in Aug/Sept of 2004, and
> built several months before.  A build date will always be months ahead
> of the first models delivered of a new model year.
>
> Rev. David R. Gerber
> Mt. Airy United Methodist Church
> 2645 North Bend Rd.
> Cincinnati, OH  45239
> Phone: 513-541-0307
> FAX: 513-541-0366
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf
> Of Dean VP
> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 10:51 PM
> To: 'Antique John Deere mailing list'
> Subject: RE: [AJD] late B
>
> Paul:
>
> All of JR Hobbs books list serial number by model year. As far as an
> official JD document I don't have access to the official JD archived
> production register info so I don't know the exact way in which they are
> presented.
>
> I do know this, for example, some 1953 model year JD 60's were made in
> 1952.
> This occurred repeatedly across all models. Another example: some Styled
> JD
> B's for model year 1939 B's were made in late 1938. This is a good
> example
> because this was the model year where JD switched from unstyled to
> styled
> B's. A very clear distinctive difference.
>
> Dean A. Van Peursem
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
> I'm a walking storeroom of facts..... I've just lost the key to the
> storeroom door
>
>
> www.deerelegacy.com
>
> http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf
> Of
> Paul O
> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 8:44 AM
> To: Antique John Deere mailing list
> Subject: Re: [AJD] late B
>
> Good comments, Mlke
> I have questons about " model year". Has anyone ever seen a Deere
> publication which provides serial numbers by "model year"?
> If such a thing exists, I would like to see it!
>
> Paul O
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michael Ostrander" <antiquejd at fwi.com>
> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 12:11 PM
> Subject: RE: [AJD] late B
>
>
> I will suggest that one of the prominent alternate lists also publish
> based
> on Model year.  The discrepancy comes from defining the parameters of
> the
> model year.  A more useful demarcation might be just the serial number
> which
> determines the appropriate part/casting etc.  The parts book for
> tractors
> lists the serial numbers corresponding to the part needing replacing.
> Model
> year designations have created arbitrary values on tractors.  A prime
> example is the D that sold in Washington within the last 8 weeks.  It
> was
> identical in its parts and configuration but sold unrestored for more
> than
> twice what an identical restored tractor did during the same period.
> The
> tractors were less than 400 serial numbers apart.  Take the tags off and
> you
> could not have told any difference between the two.  Is $6000 plus the
> cost
> of restoration truly reflective of an objective premium for identical
> tractors?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]On Behalf Of
> Dean VP
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 11:14 AM
> To: 'Antique John Deere mailing list'
> Subject: RE: [AJD] late B
>
>
> Bill:
>
> It is interesting how serial number lists vary depending on author. JR
> Hobbs
> lists the model year/serial number breaks as follows (See second # per
> year
> below):
> It would be very helful to us collectors if we could get those who
> publish
> these serial number lists to define their reference as Model Year, like
> JR
> does, vs calendar year vs production year. It sure causes a lot of
> confusion.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf
> Of
> Bill Brueck
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 8:20 AM
> To: Antique John Deere mailing list
> Subject: Re: [AJD] late B
>
> Yep, that makes it a '51, Ron;.  Parts should be plenty available.  Got
> one
> up this way about like it I may have a chance to pick up, the guy just
> died
> a couple of months ago so there will probably be an estate sale.
> 35 1000
>
> 36 12012
>
> 37 27389
>
> 38 46175
>
> 39 60000 vs 60000
>
> 40 81600 vs 78526
>
> 41 96000 vs 96000
>
> 42 126345 vs 118721
>
> 43 143420 vs 136315
>
> 44 152862 vs 149219
>
> 45 173179 vs 166880 vs 167700(Two Cylinder Club Card)
>
> 46 183673 vs 179788
>
> 47 199744 vs 201000 vs 191303(Two Cylinder Club card)
>
> 48 216055 vs 209925
>
> 49 237346 vs 230044
>
> 50 258205 vs 253025
>
> 51 276557 vs 275242
>
> 52 299175 vs 293030
>
>
> B²
> Bill Brueck (brick)
> Chatfield, MN, USA
>
> Confusion is a higher state of knowledge than ignorance.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ronald L. Cook" <rlcook at pionet.net>
> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 9:53 AM
> Subject: [AJD] late B
>
>
>>I am looking at a stuck late B.  Roll-o-matic, powr-trol, cast rear
>>centers, decent tin with the usual hack job at the stack.  Parked
> outside
>>in the fence row for years.  The exhaust pipe is rusted out and there
> is no
>
>>cover over the air stack so I fear she is a really stuck old girl.  I
> will
>>probably buy it if we can agree on the "right" price.  My question is:
> What
>
>>year production is serial number 297912?  I am thinking it is a 1951
> but I
>>have no information that says so.
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>>
>> Ron Cook
>> Salix, IA
>>
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