[AJD] JD Lindeman crawler-Parts

Thu May 19 13:43:05 PDT 2005

Totally agree on the wish to be in the business of selling fewer, higher priced parts 
instead of multiple lower priced parts. Life would be a lot simpler.
There are indeed different schools of thought on the old "$500 part for a $2000 
tractor" scenario. Personally, I know how hard it is to find some of these parts and 
if, ASSUMING I actually were to ever restore anything ever again, I were down to the 
last part that I needed I would just get it. I think that if you look for something for 
more than a few months and can't find it, then at that point it's likely worth whatever 
the fellow who has one is asking for it.
Just my thoughts
Greg

Greg Stephen
The Old Tractor Company
Stephen Equipment Company
PO Box 709
Franktown, CO 80116
303-663-5246
303-468-0377 FAX<<--GREAT WAY TO REACH ME!

On Wed May 18 20:39 , 'Dean VP' <deanvp at att.net> sent:

>Greg:
>
>I did get your original meaning. 50 to 60 years of compounded interest cost
>is by itself enough to choke a horse. Forget handling, storage, taxes,
>original costs, etc. 
>
>The rules for retail of perishable goods are totally upside down when it
>comes to the rules for products in limited supply. "Inventory Turns" is not
>the driving force. I've always wondered why I can't be in the business of
>selling $1,000,000 items instead of trying to get rid of 1,000,000 $1.00
>items. :-) But in either case there has to be buyer who is willing to pay
>the price. 
>
>I guess the rule I would use as to when a product needs to be sold is when
>the price of one item (example a head) starts approaching too much of the
>overall value of what it is going to be used on. Now if you had a NOS head
>that only fit on a very rare tractor then the value of the part is higher. I
>suppose those are everyday decisions for you. Just thinking about it makes
>my head hurt. :-)
>
>I just have trouble rationalizing buying $500 parts for $2,000 tractors. It
>just doesn't compute for me. Even if that is the only part I need and the
>original tractor was free. There are just too many other alternatives. I
>know there are exceptions where that would make total sense. But I guess the
>"time" that it takes to save buck is less expensive for me than others.
>Maybe I need to give myself a raise!  :-) 
> 
>
>Dean A. Van Peursem
>Snohomish, WA 98290
>
>I'm a walking storeroom of facts..... I've just lost the key to the
>storeroom door 
>
>
>www.deerelegacy.com
>
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>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>[antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com','','','')">antique-johndeere-
bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
>greg at theoldtractorcompany.com
>Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:36 PM
>To: Antique John Deere mailing list
>Subject: RE: [AJD] JD Lindeman crawler-Parts
>
>Lol, no I just meant that today's prices in actuality bear little
>resemblance to their last 
>published price. Why? The ever soaring demand for an ever diminishing supply
>of new original 
>parts. Recycled parts are great and in reality are the only answer for
>nearly everyone as there 
>simply isn't enough new old parts left to satisfy the need. Hence the
>recycling and 
>reproduction. What I had meant to convey with a touch of humor was to throw
>the price away and 
>just charge for the shelf time the part has been waiting! It's all the same
>in the end.
>
>I am grateful every day that I clung stubbornly to what I felt was the right
>thing to do and to 
>do it when I did. Basically to buy every tractor I could lay my hands on as
>well as any new 
>parts to supplement what we already had amidst incredible resistance from my
>peers and general 
>outrage of the community (lol). I can not measure the experiences and
>pleasure I have enjoyed 
>over the years dealing with such a great group of people, tractor
>collectors. Truly outstanding 
>individuals. For all of that I give thanks. Just look at what I would have
>missed if I had gone 
>ahead and become an engineer or some such. Other,different adventures for
>sure but what a ride 
>this has been.
>
>Now Dean, if you and I could just figure out how to sell the 85% of the
>parts that will never 
>sell why then we will really have something!
>
>Greg
>
>and yet in the same breath, today being one of THOSE days, someone with a
>quick check in their 
>pocket could have ended up with a whole pile of iron to do with as they
>would!!!! Oh well, 
>tomorrow's another day.
>
>
>Greg Stephen
>The Old Tractor Company
>Stephen Equipment Company
>PO Box 709
>Franktown, CO 80116
>303-663-5246
>303-468-0377 FAX
>
>On Tue May 17 20:54 , 'Dean VP' deanvp at att.net> sent:
>
>>Greg:
>>
>>If I were sitting on several NOS heads and blocks the "holding fee" would
>be
>>appropriate too.  I'm not complaining at all about what the current cost
>>might be on them as I'm sure the original investment and accumulated
>>stocking costs over the years has added up quite a bit. I know any owner
>who
>>has truly carried these for sale for years has a tremendous investment
>>involved. I just shudder to think what it might be!  :-) Makes my rear end
>>pucker!  :-) Let's see, will my tractor run a lot better with a NOS head or
>>should I just go find a Parts Tractor or two or three. :-) I know which way
>>I've gone in the past. 
>>
>>But then there is the NOS Side Looking Radar for a B52 that is for sale
>too.
>>If we just could find a NOS B52 for sale maybe something really interesting
>>could be put on display. 
>>
>>Dean A. Van Peursem
>>Snohomish, WA 98290
>>
>>I'm a walking storeroom of facts..... I've just lost the key to the
>>storeroom door 
>>
>>
>>www.deerelegacy.com
>>
>>http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>[antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com','','','')">antique-jo
>hndeere-
>bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
>>greg at theoldtractorcompany.com
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 1:31 PM
>>To: Antique John Deere mailing list
>>Subject: RE: [AJD] JD Lindeman crawler-Parts
>>
>>Heads are bare.
>>So far as pricing goes, I have a new philosophy. Why not give away the
>parts
>>but charge 
>>a "holding fee"? lol
>>Greg
>>
>>
>>Greg Stephen
>>The Old Tractor Company
>>Stephen Equipment Company
>>PO Box 709
>>Franktown, CO 80116
>>303-663-5246
>>303-468-0377 FAX
>>
>>On Tue May 17  2:53 , 'Dean VP' deanvp at att.net> sent:
>>
>>>Greg:
>>>
>>>I bet they are really inexpensive too!  :-) Although I picked up a NOS 520
>>>block very inexpensively so I guess it's possible. Maybe the Green on
>those
>>>parts is just paint!  :-) I'm curious, do the NOS heads come loaded with
>>the
>>>valves, springs, guides, etc or are they just blank heads? Enquiring minds
>>>need to know. :-) 
>>>
>>>Dean A. Van Peursem
>>>Snohomish, WA 98290
>>>
>>>I'm a walking storeroom of facts..... I've just lost the key to the
>>>storeroom door 
>>>
>>>
>>>www.deerelegacy.com
>>>
>>>http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>[antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com','','','')">antique-j
>o
>>hndeere-
>>bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
>>>greg at theoldtractorcompany.com
>>>Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:40 PM
>>>To: Antique John Deere mailing list
>>>Subject: RE: [AJD] JD Lindeman crawler-Parts
>>>
>>>I have multiple B1305R blocks and the corresponding heads new in the
>crates
>>>so the Lindeman 
>>>project csouldn't be all that tough.
>>>Sounds like it's worth a look
>>>Greg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>reg Stephen
>>>The Old Tractor Company
>>>Stephen Equipment Company
>>>PO Box 709
>>>Franktown, CO 80116
>>>303-663-5246
>>>303-468-0377 FAX
>>>
>>>On Sun May 15  0:18 , 'Dean VP' deanvp at att.net> sent:
>>>
>>>>Brad:
>>>>
>>>>Yep, John is correct. It looks like block casting number B1305R was used
>>on
>>>>the late BO's & BR's and also the very early styled B's. If it's an early
>>>BO
>>>>or BR that's not true as they used block casting number B354R
>>>>
>>>>I thought I was going to be of real and immediate help here as I recently
>>>>acquired a B block but unfortunately it is block casting number B1783R
>and
>>>>JD switched to that block following the B1305R. The block looks pretty
>>good
>>>>too. No noticeable cracks and the cylinder walls look good enough that a
>>>>honing might be all that is necessary. Haven't had it Magnafluxed or
>>>>measured yet. Close but no cigar. Oh well, I suspect they are fairly easy
>>>to
>>>>find. 
>>>>
>>>>I will be bringing home 1939 B & 1940 B parts tractors soon if you need
>>>help
>>>>on the correct replacement block. They should have the right blocks on
>>them
>>>>but I really don't know yet what shape they are in either. I think I have
>>a
>>>>spare cylinder head around here right now for the early styled B's as
>>well.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Should be fairly easy to find replacement parts I would think. Holler if
>I
>>>>can be of further assistance. 
>>>>
>>>>Dean A. Van Peursem
>>>>Snohomish, WA 98290
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>www.deerelegacy.com
>>>>
>>>>http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>[antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com','','','')">antique-
>j
>>o
>>>hndeere-
>>>bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>John Boehm
>>>>Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 8:26 PM
>>>>To: Antique John Deere mailing list
>>>>Subject: RE: [AJD] JD Lindeman crawler
>>>>
>>>>4400 lbs. and some of the the styled row crop B's use
>>>>the same block, so it should not be impossible to find
>>>>one.
>>>>
>>>>John Boehm
>>>>Woodland, CA
>>>>Visit my web site at http://vintagetractors.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--- Brad Loomis bloomis at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ok I'll bite. I have a passing interest in this. If
>>>>> the block is cracked,
>>>>> which I assume would be the worst case scenario,
>>>>> then how hard is a
>>>>> replacement to find or to repair? I would think I'm
>>>>> about one of the closest
>>>>> to Dee and Goleta, and a Lindeman would be really
>>>>> nice. Also what is the
>>>>> approximate weight of one of these critters?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Brad Loomis
>>>>> San Miguel, CA
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Karl
>>>>> Yes that sounds like what he explained to me,
>>>>> however that was many years
>>>>> back, and one of the cyl is still full of water so I
>>>>> would think ( and I
>>>>> have never seen the tractor
>>>>> or the individual) That a min of cracked head , and
>>>>> sleeving is in order?
>>>>> Depending on how badly stuck it is?
>>>>> 
>>>>> However seeing it is a Lindeman and just the
>>>>> castings are worth a bundle if
>>>>> the rest of the tractor is salvagable , and again
>>>>> according to the owner he
>>>>> was using it to disc a field when all this took
>>>>> place?? So possibly it could
>>>>> only involve a engine overhaul and you may be back
>>>>> in business?? If I was
>>>>> even remotely interested I would make a trip to see
>>>>> it , but as you know I
>>>>> am downsizing not expanding.
>>>>> Dee
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> >> Hi Guy's
>>>>> >> Had a gentleman contact me today, who has a JD
>>>>> Lindeman
>>>>> >> for sale. I have never met him ,however he knew I
>>>>> was a collector, and
>>>>> >> was asking If I was interested?
>>>>> >> I am not , So if any of you folks are?
>>>>> >> The tractor has been in a shed for years and it
>>>>> got hot and had water
>>>>> >> poured in it , then promptly seized according to
>>>>> the gentleman I spoke
>>>>> >> with?
>>>>> >> I do not know this man , have never had any
>>>>> dealings with him, and do not
>>>>> >> have any more info on the tractor.
>>>>> >> The Tractor is in Goleta Ca.
>>>>> >> His name is  Tony Tosti
>>>>> >> His # 805-683-3044
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> 
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