[AT] "First" diesel crawler w/ Blade

[Larry D. Goss]

Humm.  It wouldn't be the first time (or the last) that an author got
something wrong.  My students used to think it was awfully presumptuous
of me to question the truth of things that were published in their
textbooks, but I told them that skepticism can be a healthy thing --
particularly when it comes to things that get published.

But in this case, it's a matter of a "loose nut behind the steering
wheel."  I simply didn't read far enough in the actual data pages.  Both
tests are listed.  It looks like the summer of 1932 was the "Year of the
Caterpillar" for Nebraska Testing.  Seven tests in a row were run on
various models of Caterpillars.

Now, I wonder if any of them had blades on them.

Larry

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Larry the Nebraska test book shows two seperate tests 208 & 209.  They
both 
look like the same crawler but they call the first one a "diesel" and
the 
second (test 209) a model 65.

Charlie
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From: "Larry D. Goss" <rlgoss at evansville.net>
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> Another source is "Ultimate American Farm Tractor Data Book: Nebraska
> test Tractors 1920-1960 by Lorry Dunning.  ISBN 0-7603-0477-7.  This
> book has a chapter called "Power Test Timeline" that lists all the
> firsts in the series.  I get the impression from reading Dunning that
> the "Diesel" and the Cat. 65 tractors are one and the same.  But what
do
> I know?  The Cat. 65 is listed as test #208.
>
> Larry
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of charlie
hill
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 12:10 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] "First" diesel crawler w/ Blade
>
> Looking through the Nebraska Tractor Test book,  the first Diesel
> Crawler
> they tested was Test No. 208 in July 1932.  It was a Caterpillar
> "Diesel"
> (apparently Diesel was the model name). The next one they tested was
in
> July
> 1932 and it was a Cat model 65.
>
> It that wasn't the first diesel crawler it was most likely the first
> reliable diesel crawler.  Nebraska tested it's first crawler in 1920
so
> if
> there had been any out before the Caterpillar they most likely would
> have
> tested it.
>
> According to Norm Swinfords AC construction equipment book,
> Monarch tested an Atlas Diesel in a model 75 in 1927 and it was tested
> in
> Montana as late as 1930 but never put into production.
>
> Reference for the librarian:
>  Nebraska Tractor Tests Since 1920 by C.H. Wendel.
>
> Allis Chalmers Construction Machinery & Industrial Equipment
> Norm Swinford,  Crestline Publishers,  ISBN 0-7603-0485-8
>
> Charlie Hill
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "JParks" <jkparks at flash.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 11:08 AM
> Subject: [AT] "First" diesel crawler w/ Blade
>
>
>> Below is a copy/paste of a question I rec'd from a librarian in hopes
> of
>> helping an inquiring patron.  (very helpful library!)  The question
>> involves
>> not just the "first" diesel powered crawler tractor, but the
qualifier
>
>> that
>> it be a "dozer", so the blade attachment comes into question too.
All
> I
>> have is a WAG with a +/- of several years margin of area.  Can ya'll
>> supply
>> a more definitive and authoritative answer.  I will pass along all
> your
>> replies to the librarian.
>> Thanks
>> John Parks
>> Boise, ID
>> My name is Tonia Totten and I work at the Bristol Public Library and
> I'm
>> writing to you on behalf of a library patron who has a question that
>> hopefully you will be able to answer. The patron wants to know when
> the
>> first diesel powered bulldozers were made
>>
>>
>>
>>
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