[AJD] Serial Number Plate

Sat Jan 22 20:19:28 PST 2005

Inside the front cover of my original operator manual for 1948 G sn 31379 is 
the place for the owner to record information about his tractor.  The book 
also references a little card that comes with the manual so you can record 
these things and have them with you when you go to the dealer to order 
parts:

tractor
magneto
powr-trol or power-lift

There's a little drawing so you can find each, it's a little hard to tell 
but I think the powr-trol pic is pointing to a vertical tag facing the rear 
at the bottom right of the assembly.   Or maybe it's stamped right into the 
casting.  I'll check one of these days; where the G is parked will take this 
old guy a few minutes to get back to it!

I have the same book for his 1948 M and it shows only the tractor serial 
number thusly.  The M book still has the billfold card in it.  The M was 
stolen a few years before he died, the G parts disappeared shortly after he 
died in 1993.  If anybody runs across G # 31379 or M # 21968 let me know!

B²
Bill Brueck (brick)
Chatfield, MN, USA

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Spencer Yost" <yostsw at atis.net>
To: <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 8:37 PM
Subject: Re[4]: [AJD] Serial Number Plate

> That definitely could be it, though the only thing I can conjure up is I
> seem to remember the second item was also an engine item.  My memory is
> real shaky about the second item.  I'd check my B to see what else might
> have a number but it is in a shed that is a long way across my very icy
> fields and I am not about to go look (-;
>
> Spencer Yost
> Owner, ATIS
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> On 1/22/2005 at 7:53 PM Jim Showers wrote:
>
>>Spencer, it was possible he had an unstyled tractor with the power lift.
>>The early ones had a serial number.  The 1936 A I recently sold had a
>>power
>>lift with the serial number tag.
>>Jim Showers
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Spencer Yost" <yostsw at atis.net>
>>To: <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 5:16 PM
>>Subject: Re[2]: [AJD] Serial Number Plate
>>
>>
>>>I listened to a story from a fellow who first hand had a serial number
>>> plate replaced.   He said that two items on the tractor had their own
>>> number on them:   The magneto and something else(wish I could remember).
>>> He said as long as he could show them those two parts with those two
>>> numbers and the build logs agreed, they were happy and the tag was
>>> replaced.  I can't remember though if this was a Waterloo built or
>>> Dubuque(I imagine Waterloo???).   I do remember for sure that the effort
>>> had to be done through the local dealer.   You could not contact John
>>> Deere
>>> directly and have them do it.
>>>
>>> Again, this is just what this one fellow at our local show, who claims
> to
>>> have gone through the process, said.   Take it with a grain of salt.
>>>
>>> Spencer Yost
>>> Owner, ATIS
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>>> On 1/21/2005 at 11:26 PM Louis wrote:
>>>
>>>>Deere won't replace a serial number tag, unless you have the original
>>>>tag.  Their replacement tag doesn't look like the original.  It has
>>>>barcoding and a more modern look to it.  I saw one this past summer at
>>>>our local show.
>>>>
>>>>D&D Graphics in Mason, IA is reproducing tags.  They look pretty good.
>>>>They don't have the raised letters, like the original tag. But other
>>>>than that they look really good.
>>>>
>>>>Lou
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf
>>>>Of Dean VP
>>>>Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 10:22 PM
>>>>To: 'Antique John Deere mailing list'
>>>>Subject: RE: [AJD] Serial Number Plate
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>David:
>>>>
>>>>It is very difficult if you are going to try to get to specific serial
>>>>number. Unless you are able to trace down the sales records of your
>>>>tractor through previous owners it is next to impossible. You might be
>>>>able to get down to a range of serial numbers by analyzing the
>>>>configuration of parts on the tractor but that sometimes isn't accurate
>>>>either because PO's may have exchanged parts. And at best will get you
>>>>only to a range of serial numbers it could be.
>>>>
>>>>I am not aware of how JD Corporate can be of help unless you can prove
>>>>to them that you have supporting records to prove it is a specific
>>>>serial number. Then a replacement serial number tag can be arranged.
>>>>
>>>>I have never done this but have heard of others who have done the best
>>>>they could to identify the lineage of the tractor and then determine
>>>>what serial numbers might be appropriate and then find another junk
>>>>tractor in the same serial number range and take that serial number tag
>>>>off of it and put it on your tractor. However common acceptable ethics
>>>>would be to tell any future owner what has been done. What isn't
>>>>acceptable IMHO is to try to enhance the value of your tractor using
>>>>another serial number tag which has JD records which would create
>>>>something of more value.
>>>>
>>>>I believe there is a well known author in the antique tractor collecting
>>>>field who somewhat tongue in cheek states: "If you want a tractor with a
>>>>serial number tag, make sure you buy one that has one on it"
>>>>
>>>>As far as I know there is no easy solution to your problem.
>>>>
>>>>Dean A. Van Peursem
>>>>Snohomish, WA 98290
>>>>
>>>>I'm a walking storeroom of facts..... I've just lost the key to the
>>>>storeroom door
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>www.deerelegacy.com
>>>>
>>>>http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf
>>>>Of David Smith
>>>>Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 5:54 PM
>>>>To: Antique John Deere mailing list
>>>>Subject: [AJD] Serial Number Plate
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>How difficult is it to locate a serial number plate off of a junk
>>>>tractor? I have a friend that has a 1938 unstyled A that is missing a
>>>>serial plate. We have checked the parts books and everything traces back
>>>>to 1938.  Any help or even leads would be great.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>David
>>>>Oakboro, NC
>>>>
>>>>
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