[AJD] Serial Number Plate

Sat Jan 22 16:57:21 PST 2005

Spencer,

I was fortunate enough to be able to replace a missing serial number plate on a 420U that I came by about 5 years ago.  I had to do it through a local dealer and also the JD Territorial Manager who verified the tractor. The Dubuque tractors had a separate engine serial number that was recorded in the factory log book and this was cross referenced at the Archives to locate the tractor number.  The Waterloo tractors never had a separate engine number and that is why you can't come up with a number for them once it is lost. The replacement serial number plate is the new variety that includes a bar code also.  I purchased an original reproduced plate from a company in Iowa and stamped the number myself.  I have kept the JD replacement tag as verification of the tractor, but put the original look tag on the tractor.  It might be tough to find a dealer who will go the extra mile and help a person do the verification.  Deere has a special form that has to be completed and signed by the dealer and TM to get the ball rolling.  Good luck.

Mitch Daly
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Spencer Yost<mailto:yostsw at atis.net> 
  To: antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com<mailto:antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com> 
  Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 5:16 PM
  Subject: Re[2]: [AJD] Serial Number Plate

  I listened to a story from a fellow who first hand had a serial number
  plate replaced.   He said that two items on the tractor had their own
  number on them:   The magneto and something else(wish I could remember).
  He said as long as he could show them those two parts with those two
  numbers and the build logs agreed, they were happy and the tag was
  replaced.  I can't remember though if this was a Waterloo built or
  Dubuque(I imagine Waterloo???).   I do remember for sure that the effort
  had to be done through the local dealer.   You could not contact John Deere
  directly and have them do it.

  Again, this is just what this one fellow at our local show, who claims to
  have gone through the process, said.   Take it with a grain of salt.

  Spencer Yost
  Owner, ATIS
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  On 1/21/2005 at 11:26 PM Louis wrote:

  >Deere won't replace a serial number tag, unless you have the original
  >tag.  Their replacement tag doesn't look like the original.  It has
  >barcoding and a more modern look to it.  I saw one this past summer at
  >our local show.  
  >
  >D&D Graphics in Mason, IA is reproducing tags.  They look pretty good.
  >They don't have the raised letters, like the original tag. But other
  >than that they look really good.
  >
  >Lou
  >
  >-----Original Message-----
  >From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com<mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>
  >[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf
  >Of Dean VP
  >Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 10:22 PM
  >To: 'Antique John Deere mailing list'
  >Subject: RE: [AJD] Serial Number Plate
  >
  >
  >David:
  >
  >It is very difficult if you are going to try to get to specific serial
  >number. Unless you are able to trace down the sales records of your
  >tractor through previous owners it is next to impossible. You might be
  >able to get down to a range of serial numbers by analyzing the
  >configuration of parts on the tractor but that sometimes isn't accurate
  >either because PO's may have exchanged parts. And at best will get you
  >only to a range of serial numbers it could be. 
  >
  >I am not aware of how JD Corporate can be of help unless you can prove
  >to them that you have supporting records to prove it is a specific
  >serial number. Then a replacement serial number tag can be arranged. 
  >
  >I have never done this but have heard of others who have done the best
  >they could to identify the lineage of the tractor and then determine
  >what serial numbers might be appropriate and then find another junk
  >tractor in the same serial number range and take that serial number tag
  >off of it and put it on your tractor. However common acceptable ethics
  >would be to tell any future owner what has been done. What isn't
  >acceptable IMHO is to try to enhance the value of your tractor using
  >another serial number tag which has JD records which would create
  >something of more value. 
  >
  >I believe there is a well known author in the antique tractor collecting
  >field who somewhat tongue in cheek states: "If you want a tractor with a
  >serial number tag, make sure you buy one that has one on it" 
  >
  >As far as I know there is no easy solution to your problem. 
  >
  >Dean A. Van Peursem
  >Snohomish, WA 98290
  >
  >I'm a walking storeroom of facts..... I've just lost the key to the
  >storeroom door 
  >
  >
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  >
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  >
  >
  >
  >-----Original Message-----
  >From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com<mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>
  >[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf
  >Of David Smith
  >Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 5:54 PM
  >To: Antique John Deere mailing list
  >Subject: [AJD] Serial Number Plate
  >
  >
  >How difficult is it to locate a serial number plate off of a junk
  >tractor? I have a friend that has a 1938 unstyled A that is missing a
  >serial plate. We have checked the parts books and everything traces back
  >to 1938.  Any help or even leads would be great.
  > 
  >Thanks,
  >David
  >Oakboro, NC
  >
  >
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