thumb drives (was Re: [AT] computer problems

steve smith elmodee at psln.com
Sun Jan 16 23:01:14 PST 2005


While we are on the subject of CD's O need to know if there is a way to 
remove labels from CD's. I have a big collection of my favorite music from 
the past and all the CD's have labels. I have been told that I can't use a 
CD with a label in my truck's 6 cd changer. HELP
Thank You
Smitty

At 12:40 AM 1/17/05 -0600, you wrote:
>The standard is more concerned about embossing the reflective surface
>than about the glue and solvents.  The metallic portion of the disk
>which has the reflective surface on the bottom side is the top layer in
>the lamination.  They claim that it isn't thick enough or protected
>enough to resist destruction by being embossed with any sort of writing
>instrument.  But librarians are generally rather conservative in their
>operations.  They want to encapsulate everything in an acid-free
>environment.  It's interesting to experience the way librarians act in
>other countries compared to here.  They're often more open in how they
>handle rare and archived materials in other countries.
>
>Larry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sloane
>Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 4:13 PM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>Subject: OT: Re: thumb drives (was Re: [AT] computer problems
>
>That old wives tale about not marking on the CD/DVDs has been pretty
>well refuted in the trade - it turns out that the solvents used in the
>label glue do far more damage than the water based inks used in the
>marking pens labeled "ASTM D-4236". Even the popular "Sharpie" pens,
>which use solvent based ink, turn out to do no damage, as the solvent
>evaporates before it can penetrate the outer layer of the CD.
>
>Mike
>
>
>Larry D. Goss wrote:
> > Hey, Mike, there's a published standard for librarians that you would
> > probably find interesting.  It covers all the magnetic and optical
>media
> > including things that we lowly consumers can only dream about being
>able
> > to do in the future --all the way up to quad level recording for
>DVD's.
> > It gives all the do's and don'ts for handling, marking, storing, etc,
> > and gives the recording standards. Among other things it says to
>never,
> > NEVER, mark directly on a CD or DVD disk with anything.  Always use
> > preprinted labels.  Once you see the mechanical structure of the
>disks,
> > you can understand why.    If there's interest, I'll look up the URL
>and
> > post it for you all.  It's around 50 pages long.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sloane
> > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 5:32 AM
> > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > Subject: OT: thumb drives (was Re: [AT] computer problems
> >
> > Thumb drives are great for "sneakernet" file transfers, but data I
>have
> > seen shows that they have very poor reliability in terms of long term
> > storage - almost as bad as floppies. If you you have valuable files
>you
> > must not lose, trust your archives to high quality CD-R or DVD-R
>media,
> > or public backup sites. Good quality optical media will last damn near
>
> > forever if handled properly, and the cost is very low - under $1/disc
> > for the best - and you can get decent drives that will do both CD-R
>and
> > double sided DVD-R for under $100.
> >
> > Mike
> >
>
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