[AJD] Losing my mind getting the "B" in time

[wjohnson]

I have run into several cases where the slot is not exactly horizonal when
the gears are right.  When this happens I set the gears so the slot slops
toward the front of the engine and use normal timing prosedure and have
always had success.
Merle

-----Original Message-----
From: "Dean VP" <deanvp at att.net>
To: "'Antique John Deere mailing list'"
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:25:34 -0800
Subject: RE: [AJD] Losing my mind getting the "B" in time

> Steve:
> 
> I agree except Nick stated he couldn't get the gears to mesh when the
> slot
> was horizontal. I couldn't tell if he was lifting the governor or not. 
> 
> Dean A. Van Peursem
> Snohomish, WA 98290
> 
> I'm a walking storeroom of facts..... I've just lost the key to the
> storeroom door 
> 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf
> Of
> Steve Treimer
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 1:49 PM
> To: Antique John Deere mailing list
> Subject: Re: [AJD] Losing my mind getting the "B" in time
> 
> Spencer,
> Perfect, except it sounds like Nick might have to lift his governor and
> rotate to make the coupling horizontal.
> Steve
> 
> --- Spencer Yost <yostsw at atis.net> wrote:
> 
> > Go here:
> > 
> > http://www.atis.net/~yostsw/Clip2.jpg
> > 
> > This is a scan out of my AT Bible book.  Your browser may try to
> > optimize
> > for your screen and it may look fuzzy but it should print out very
> > readable.   Don't tell my publisher (-;  If the print-out doesn't
> > look
> > right, save the picture and use something else to print it.
> > 
> > I noticed that my procedures are a bit different than yours so this
> > might
> > be of some help.  If, during these procedures they say your governor
> > should
> > be level and it isn't, adjust your governor. If it can't adjust, then
> > something is seriously amiss.  As Dean said, probably the cam is off
> > or the
> > governor gear has skipped a tooth.  My driving coupling slot is dead
> > level
> > when I do this.
> > 
> > This works for me every time.   Breath deep, follow religiously, and
> > you
> > should be in business in abut 15 minutes.
> > 
> > Spencer Yost
> > Owner, ATIS
> > Plow the Net!
> > http://www.atis.net
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
> > 
> > On 2/9/2005 at 5:17 PM nick_solomon at infostations.com wrote:
> > 
> > >ok..... let me see if I can clearly explain my problem.
> > >
> > >problem # 1
> > >
> > >I decided to retime the tractor from the ground up(at least from the
> > >govenor up) according to my manual in the section for timing the
> > govenor,
> > >you rotate the fly wheel till the mark on it where it says LH
> > IMPULSE,
> > >lines up with the mark on the gear cover, and when it does, that the
> > drive
> > >in the govenor should be parallel with the top of the crank
> > case......
> > >when the marks on the fly wheel/gear cover line up, the gears will
> > not
> > >mesh, the only way for the drive in the govenor to be parallel, is
> > for the
> > >marks to be off almost a half inch on the fly wheel/ gear cover.
> > >So I left it retarded rather than advanced for now.
> > >
> > >Problem # 2
> > >
> > >Ok so now its time to remount the magneto and time it
> > >
> > >manual mentions 2 different ways, one for the B96000-B201000, and a
> > second
> > >method for the 201000 and up mine is in the 201000 and up category
> > >
> > >so it instructs one to remove LH spark plug, and rotate flywheel
> > till you
> > >feel pressure building in the cylinder then continue to rotate till
> > PUNCH
> > >MARK on fly wheel hub lines up with V MARK of fly wheel
> > cover........ this
> > >is where I thought that it was odd, because its a bit off from where
> > the
> > >other marks were when timing the govenor.... but who am I to argue
> > with
> > >instructions. once again it states that the drive coupling in
> > govenor will
> > >be in the horizontal position, NOT SO!!!!!!? So, really long story
> > into a
> > >slightly shorter one, I went back and remeshed govenor gears so that
> > drive
> > >coupling in govenor are horizontal when the PUNCH MARK on fly wheel
> > hub
> > >lines up with V MARK of fly wheel cover. great, so I proceed to try
> > to
> > >time the Magneto and find it to be so far off that it is imposible
> > to trip
> > >the mechinism. so I RETIME the govenor AGAIN back to where the book
> > says
> > >to do it in the first place and proceed to mount the mag with the
> > marks
> > >retarded. time it and try to start it. crank till flooded, it back
> > fired
> > >once providing my only amusment by launching my pop can cover 25 ft
> > in the
> > >air........ and still won't start, Im stumped in how to get this
> > thing
> > >timed
> > >
> > >frozen and frustrated
> > >Nick
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