[AJD] Losing my mind getting the "B" in time

[Louis R Godena]

Nick;

A couple of thoughts.  First, this has happened to me before and it was due 
simply to having the wires reversed going into the mag:-).

Secondly, make sure your mag is okay.   To test, disconnect one spark plug 
cable.   Hold the end about an eighth of an inch from the block and operate 
the starting motor.  If there is no spark or a weak spark, the mag is 
probably defective.

Finally, rotate the flywheel counter-clockwise.  See if an impulse occurs 
when "L.H. Impulse" mark on flywheel lines up with mark on cover.  If it 
doesn't, re-time the mag.

Hope this helps,
Louis Godena

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean VP" <deanvp at att.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: [AJD] Losing my mind getting the "B" in time


> Nick:
>
> It has been too long ago since I worked on the 
> crankshaft/camshaft/governor
> gear timing but is it possible that the problem may be that timing of the
> camshaft is out of time from where it should be vs the crankshaft? 
> Otherwise
> what you are experiencing don't make sense to me.
>
> Dean A. Van Peursem
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
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> storeroom door
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> nick_solomon at infostations.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 5:17 PM
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> Subject: [AJD] Losing my mind getting the "B" in time
>
> ok..... let me see if I can clearly explain my problem.
>
> problem # 1
>
> I decided to retime the tractor from the ground up(at least from the
> govenor up) according to my manual in the section for timing the govenor,
> you rotate the fly wheel till the mark on it where it says LH IMPULSE,
> lines up with the mark on the gear cover, and when it does, that the drive
> in the govenor should be parallel with the top of the crank case......
> when the marks on the fly wheel/gear cover line up, the gears will not
> mesh, the only way for the drive in the govenor to be parallel, is for the
> marks to be off almost a half inch on the fly wheel/ gear cover.
> So I left it retarded rather than advanced for now.
>
> Problem # 2
>
> Ok so now its time to remount the magneto and time it
>
> manual mentions 2 different ways, one for the B96000-B201000, and a second
> method for the 201000 and up mine is in the 201000 and up category
>
> so it instructs one to remove LH spark plug, and rotate flywheel till you
> feel pressure building in the cylinder then continue to rotate till PUNCH
> MARK on fly wheel hub lines up with V MARK of fly wheel cover........ this
> is where I thought that it was odd, because its a bit off from where the
> other marks were when timing the govenor.... but who am I to argue with
> instructions. once again it states that the drive coupling in govenor will
> be in the horizontal position, NOT SO!!!!!!? So, really long story into a
> slightly shorter one, I went back and remeshed govenor gears so that drive
> coupling in govenor are horizontal when the PUNCH MARK on fly wheel hub
> lines up with V MARK of fly wheel cover. great, so I proceed to try to
> time the Magneto and find it to be so far off that it is imposible to trip
> the mechinism. so I RETIME the govenor AGAIN back to where the book says
> to do it in the first place and proceed to mount the mag with the marks
> retarded. time it and try to start it. crank till flooded, it back fired
> once providing my only amusment by launching my pop can cover 25 ft in the
> air........ and still won't start, Im stumped in how to get this thing
> timed
>
> frozen and frustrated
> Nick
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