[AT] AC-170 Diesel starts in the cold

Wed Dec 14 10:28:55 PST 2005

Yes Jason,  It's a Perkins diesel and he said the crack went from freeze 
plug to freeze plug on the side of the block.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jason DeJoode" <jldejoode at highstream.net>
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> Do I understand you correctly that the crack goes from frost plug to frost 
> plug?
>
> Jason
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Bruce" <davidbruce at yadtel.net>
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>> And, of course, all of us AC fans are orange with envy.
>>
>> David
>> NW NC
>>
>> charlie hill wrote:
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>>> You did good Carl!!!
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "carl gogol" <cgogol at twcny.rr.com>
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>>>> Just a note to everyone on the list that commented on this tractor not 
>>>> starting last week to let you know it has a new home.   :-)
>>>> The story of the Jr. salesman not having the fuel on was apparently 
>>>> true, it started without ether or being plugged-in weather that was 
>>>> either 21 or 25 F (dealers temperature vs. our car's gauge).  I can't 
>>>> say it started super easy, but I thought quite reasonable compared to 
>>>> some engines I have had the "pleasure" to be around.  It  fired in 
>>>> short order and then would quickly start to increase RPMs to the point 
>>>> where the mechanic would pull the throttle back to keep the speed 
>>>> down - it would then quit.  It did this about 5 times and I suggested 
>>>> that he slowly move the throttle back to a less vigorous idle and it 
>>>> then kept running.  The exhaust cleared in a short time, seemed under 5 
>>>> minutes.and then ran very clean and clear until load or acceleration 
>>>> was applied.  No knocking, clanging or strange sounds.  Rode it around 
>>>> enough to check out the tranny and power director. Power director snaps 
>>>> into both ranges, but seems "soft" enough to require some adjusting 
>>>> next winter.  Clutch does not engage until almost all pedal is used, 
>>>> don't know if it will still adjust or needs to be replaced - seems good 
>>>> to go until next winter at least.  Rubber is solid, at least 50% thread 
>>>> and no weather checks.  Its big too, 18.4-28 , Our D-17 had 16.9". 
>>>> Even has a set of wheel weights.
>>>> The crack in the block is between two frost plugs and actually quite 
>>>> easy to get to once the starter is removed.  Should be a straight 
>>>> forward job for the lock and stitch repair system.  I will have to move 
>>>> some stuff around in the barn this weekend to make room for it  - 
>>>> should be delivered next week.
>>>> I had been looking for a Series IV D-17, but this seemed so much like 
>>>> one I thought that it would do just fine.  I am surprised at how "$ 
>>>> reasonable" that engine kits and the like are for this Perkins engine. 
>>>> I think the parts for the D-14's engines are at least 50% higher, as 
>>>> are those for the similar sized Allis built gas and diesels.  Looks 
>>>> like it pays to use a high production volume engine.
>>>> This has a 3 point hitch, original top link and two remote valves.  I 
>>>> was at an auction last summer and picked up a loader for a 170 because 
>>>> I thought that it would fit a D-14.  Talk about luck - no more luck for 
>>>> me for several years!  This will probably let me sell one of the D-14s 
>>>> (I'm not sure if I used that with the wife or not)!
>>>> Very much noticed one other thing, - there is a big difference between 
>>>> a 36 HP machine and a 56 HP machine!  I had forgotten the feel of that 
>>>> much power.  I negotiated a price that. while it included delivery, is 
>>>> "as is". The manager is not happy with the salesman for not spotting 
>>>> the crack and the salesman is not happy with the previous owner for not 
>>>> pointing it out. Manager wanted it out before the end of the year - 
>>>> that was clear and said this way he was wholesaling it.  I am very 
>>>> comfortable with it as it is the third tractor of that general design I 
>>>> have bought.  This hopefully gives me quite a bit of knowledge about 
>>>> them and what to look for.  Time will tell if I really know what I am 
>>>> doing.
>>>> Carl Gogol
>>>> Manlius, NY
>>>> AC 170 D
>>>> (2) AC D-14, AC 914H
>>>> Simplicity 3112 & 7116
>>>> Kubota F-2400
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