[AT] Cracked diesel block opinion question and welding cast iron

[Cecil Bearden]

We have over 5000 hrs on our v-8 Perkins in the 1155 Massey.  The 2-105 
White has about 4500 on it, and it looks like it was never overhauled.  I 
just installed a Water Pump on it this summer before I could use it, we 
bought it at auction.  Our 1850 Olivers have both been overhauled, one had 
400 hrs on it, and the other one had about 3000.  The biggest problem is 
setting outside.  This causes more wear than putting dirt in the air intake. 
I have lost more engines due to setting outside and letting some pile of 
junk set under a roof than I care to tell...  If the tractor is run at least 
every week for long enough to get it warm thoroughly, then it should last a 
long time.  I have some that set for at laeast a month before they are 
started.  This is what causes a lot of wear.....

Another method of starting diesels, particularly Perkins engines is to soak 
a rag in gasoline, then put it over the air intake.  An old sweatshirt works 
really well.  Let the intake air suck the gasoline fumes into the intake, 
and the engine will start without really knocking.   My old 1155 is the 
hardest tractor to pump the fuel pump primer with...   I use the gasoline 
and rag method to run it until it picks up the fuel...   My Dad has run this 
tractor out of fuel so much he has ruined the fuel pump from the crud that 
always comes out of the last bit of fuel.  He will not fuel up a tractor. 
He thinks that once a year is all you should fill them up!!!!!!!!!!

What do yo do with an 85 year old child?

If the dealer loses money on the tractor, that is his problem..  I have 
worked in that business for many years.  Sometimes your crystal ball is just 
cloudy!!!!!!   I would try to see what happens with a fully charged battery 
on a cold day.  My 4010, and my 400 JD loader backhoe both require ether 
when it is below 40 deg..  The 400 pump has been rebuilt and the 4010 has 
just been ran for the last 25 years.
Just another $0.02

Cecil in Okla
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "carl gogol" <cgogol at twcny.rr.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Cracked diesel block opinion question and welding cast 
iron


> Cecil-
> I like the way you think - that is the main reason I went out on a cold 
> Saturday - if it wouldn't start it was clearly not worth the asking price! 
> Question is how low can I get him to go?  They are discounting a lot below 
> their original asking price since the block leak was discovered. Down to 
> what they have in it I'm told.  Now a non-starter with injector or 
> preheater problems (probably both in my mind) is a whole bigger problem 
> leading to lots more discounts.  Well I have never had anyone give me a 
> tractor, but there is always a first time.  Actually, now that I think 
> about it I was offered a Ford lawn tractor with hydrostatic transmission 
> about 15 years ago that I didn't take.
> How many hours can you get on a reasonably maintained Perkins diesel?
>
> Thanks also for the tip on ether and Perkins engines.
> Carl Gogol
> Manlius, NY
> (2) AC D-14, AC 914H
> Simplicity 3112 & 7116
> Kubota F-2400
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cecil Bearden" <crbearden at copper.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <
>> Sounds like a worn head and rotor on the injection pump.  It should have 
>> started at 28 if he used the preheater.  The preheater uses an electric 
>> heat unit with a little amount of fuel in the intake manifold to put some 
>> diesel fumes into the intake and fire from that.   Ethering a Perkins 
>> takes a talent....   The head on a Perkins is very thin.  A little too 
>> much ether and you can lock up the engine and crack the head.  I grew up 
>> with MF
>
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