Alt fuels was Re: [AT] Gasoline $

[George Willer]

Smitty,

You are dealing with a double whammy.  Of course the diesel is slightly more 
efficient  as Carnot observed many decades ago, but fossil diesel fuel also 
contains more energy per gallon than gasoline, which you are harvesting. 
The kicker is the point where the savings from both those factors come into 
play.  You could, of course harvest more savings by using the diesel more... 
such as on a trip to Portland!  :-)  It requires a lot of miles using the 
diesel engine to realize the potential saving to offset the extra initial 
cost.

What we really need to know and I haven't seen addressed is the energy 
available in a gallon of bio-diesel, compared to fossil diesel.  The use of 
discarded French fry oil isn't a viable enough source to be worth 
mentioning.   (as you know, Ethanol compares unfavorably to gasoline).

George Willer

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "steve smith" <elmodee at psln.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: Alt fuels was Re: [AT] Gasoline $


> well I might as well throw another stick on the fire lol.
> Why is everyone overlooking diesel as an alternative to gas, biodiesel is 
> already made and a diesel engine is more efficient . My 6.0 powerstroke 
> with slight modifications gets 24 mpg unloaded and the Cummins and Duramax 
> will do the same. A volkswagon Rabbit gets 50 mpg etc. Europe is changing 
> over to diesel fast.
> Also think of how much deepfry oil is discarded daily and could be 
> recycled. Possibly a manditory turn in of fry oil to recycling stations.
> Smitty
>
> At 03:27 PM 8/11/05 -0400, you wrote:
>>At 8/11/2005, you wrote:
>>>Sure, we know about rail box shipping and inter
>>>modal shipping but what we see here is mostly on it's way overseas via
>>>seaports than destined for cross country rail shipping.
>>
>>June of this year over 300,000 loaded containers came in through the port 
>>of Los Angles.  Something less than 90,000 loaded containers were shipped 
>>out.
>>
>>Don Bowen                          Awl Knotted Up
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