> Kind of like that Tappen Zee cecil? > > Mike Would you believe I've never been on the Tappan Zee? Chicago was enough. grins. Cecil -- The nicest thing about telling the truth is you never have to wonder what you said. Cecil E Monson Lucille Hand-Monson Mountainville, New York Just a little east of the North Pole Allis Chalmers tractors and equipment Free advice