[Ford-ferguson] 2N overhaul help

[Mike Sloane]

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From: <rdlotze at juno.com>
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Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 7:54 PM
Subject: Fw: [Ford-ferguson] 2N overhaul help


> Mike
> When I replaced the liners in our 8N I used a bag of crushed Dry Ice
> (Frozen CO2) inside each Sleeve and only had to Tap each one about 1/4"
> to 1/2" with a wood block to be fully seated. Allow 15 to 20 minutes to
> cool sleeve before inserting and DO NOT USE OIL - must be dry. I kept in
> freezer so they didn't frost up so bad.
That sounds like a workable plan. Suppose I put the liners in a styrofoam
cooler filled with dry ice. Wouldn't that do the same thing as keeping the
liners in the freezer? And I guess the problem with using oil at those
temperatures is the oil freezing or at least being so cold that it actually
resists movement. Good point.

> I note that TSC still lists "Sleeve Assemblies" (which is what we used 15
> years ago and at that time included pistons, rings, pins etc)  - might
> want to check them out.
My inclination is to get them from T.H.E. Company http://www.the-co.com/ in
Mt. Pleasant IA. I have had good service from them, and their prices are
competitive. The nearest TSC is in Pottstown PA, which is two hours away,
making it cheaper (at today's fuel prices) to order by mail.

> Check Rod and Main Journals with Mic. and if not out round too much
> (.003" max.) you can buy undersize inserts
That is today's project: measuring all journals so I can determine what else
to order with the sleeve assemblies. I also need kingpin bearings and
bushings and an front axle center bushing, as well as con rod little end
bushings.

Mike

> Dick
>
> --------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Mike Sloane
> Subject: [Ford-ferguson] 2N overhaul help
>
> I started on overhauling the engine on my 2N yesterday. To make a long
> story short, the piston ring grooves are badly worn, and a couple of the
> rings are broken, So I need new pistons. Then I measured the liners, and
> they are tapered about .030 top to bottom with a pretty good ridge at
> the top. So it looks like I need liners too.
>
> So here is my question: the manuals I have tell me to remove the old
> (steel) liners with something that looks like a muffler chisel - I think
> I can do that with my air chisel. But then they say to use a special
> arbor to install the new liners. I am used to IH liners that I can
> install by just oiling them up well and giving them a smack with a 2
> pound hammer on a block of wood. Apparently, if I do that to the Ford
> liners there will be a good chance that I will "buckle" them and have to
> start over. That isn't something I can afford to have happen.
>
> So how has anyone installed liners in a 9N-2N engine without having
> access to the special arbor (or any way I can see to make one)? When I
> worked for the New Holland dealer, I could walk out into the shop and
> ask the mechanics or even borrow special tools, but that is no longer an
> option. :-(
>
> While I am at it, before I tore the engine down, I had oil pressure that
> started out OK but dropped to virtually nothing once the engine warmed
> up. The bearings all appear to be fine, so I am guessing that the oil
> pump needs to be rebuilt. And thoughts about that?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>