[AT] OT Barn floor question

Fri Oct 22 22:59:44 PDT 2004

That's right, Keith.  You open up all sorts of new possibilities.
Actually, there are some wetlands out to the NW of Hovey that have some
cypress in them if I remember right.  I'll have to do some
investigations.  Actually, that area is NOT an area I like to "visit".
There's a very small community on the Wabash River a mile or so farther
west that treats everyone with large amounts of suspicion.  The piano
player for the local church took it as a personal affront when I
informed her that the piano at the church had mice living in it.  I
thought she was going to call on her friends to "run me out of town."  

I had to do a little pickup and delivery of equipment down in that area
a couple of years ago.  They're so far removed from authority down there
that they openly display illegal activities knowing full well that the
police and sheriff won't do anything.  

My but that farmer certainly had some might pretty chickens in his front
yard.  Funny how they were all individually caged and how all of them
were roosters!

Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Keith Kinney
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 8:24 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: RE: [AT] OT Barn floor question

Larry
About 20 miles west of your house is the most northern stand of cypress
in 
the USA at Hovey's Lake.  While that stand is protected I'm sure some of

the farmers in that area have some stray cypress trees growing in some
of 
their river slews.  Now I live about 10 miles east of you and have a 
sawmill.  I also have use for some cypress to build a couple of water 
cooling tanks for my antique oil field engines.  If you can line us up
some 
logs I can mill them and split the wood with you.  We also have a kiln
to 
dry the wood.
Keith

At 09:40 AM 10/21/2004, you wrote:
>Thanks, Charlie -- and everybody else who has chimed in.  When I
>restored this windmill the FIRST time, I was led to believe that there
>were two woods that were preferred -- cedar and poplar.  I had both
>available, but chose to use poplar because it's a LOT clearer.  BTW-
>this advice came from a windmill historical and restoration group.  I
>figured they knew what they were talking about.  Well as it turns out,
>there probably isn't a worse wood to use for exterior work than poplar,
>and that's what I used.
>
>The whole thing fell apart in about five years.  Now I've got to start
>from scratch and do it all over again.  In talking with a wood worker
>this week, he recommended redwood or cedar.  I don't like either one.
>Redwood splits too easily, and cedar has too many knots.  I really
would
>prefer teak or cypress.  Now, I'm talking BIG BUCKS!
>
>What I'm more likely to do is to use the treated lumber that Lowe's and
>Home Depot sell for deck construction.  There was no way I would have
>considered this material when I was employed at the university and
using
>their wood shop for all the mill work --- no way to isolate the area to
>protect people and the environment from arsenic.  But I have a contact
>with a complete woodshop with filtered dust collectors on everything.
>If he'll work with me to do the resawing and other operations in his
>shop, then I may go that route.  I wanted some feedback on the
synthetic
>stuff so I would know whether or not that's a viable option.  It sounds
>like it isn't.  I don't want the salt treated lumber either.  That's
>what I had in the floor of my trailer, and it didn't last.
>
>I notice that Home Depot is now posting a safety sheet by the bins
where
>they store their treated lumber.  It's kind of a consumer's edition of
>an MSDS and gives all the precautions to be followed in working with
the
>arsenic-treated stuff.
>
>Does anybody have a good source for cypress?  THAT'S what I really
would
>like to use.  I doubt very much that I would ever find locust or Osage
>Orange in a form and in enough quantity to do the job.
>
>FWIW, the windmill is a Flint & Walling model 26 on a 35-foot steel
>tower.  Ten-foot diameter wheel, seven-foot tail.
>
>Larry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of charlie hill
>Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 6:13 AM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>Subject: Re: [AT] OT Barn floor question
>
>Larry,  I was looking at some of that stuff yesterday.  It was used for
>parking pads at some beach cottages where there are restrictions on how
>much
>ground can be covered by concrete or asphalt.  The decking has been
>there
>for a few years and it doesn't seem to be weathering any better than
>salt
>treated wood.   Some of the boards are starting to warp and twist a
bit.
>
>Also, a friend of mine used the stuff extensively for decks and benches
>off
>the rear of his new house.  (now about 5 years old)  I was over there
>last
>year and noticed that I could drag my finger nails over the decking
>lightly
>and scrape the surface off.  It appears that UV has begun to attack the
>surface.
>
>I'd think you would be better off with cedar or juniper for your
>windmill.
>
>Charlie
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Larry D. Goss" <rlgoss at evansville.net>
>To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:57 PM
>Subject: RE: [AT] OT Barn floor question
>
>
> > What's your experience with it, Warren?  Seriously, I MAY want to
use
>it
> > for some of the wheel and tail of a windmill.  If it can be machined
>and
> > still be impervious to weathering, it would be good for some parts.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of WF Smith
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 10:46 PM
> > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > Subject: RE: [AT] OT Barn floor question
> >
> >> I wonder how a floor made of the new synthetic decking material
that
> >> Home Depot and Lowe's has for sale would work?  It would let the
>urine
> >
> > I wouldn't recommend that stuff for an outhouse, and that's putting
it
> > mildly.
> >
> > Warren
> >
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