[AT] OT Barn floor question

pga2 at hot1.net pga2 at hot1.net
Thu Oct 21 11:07:13 PDT 2004


Larry,
Have you checked the price for Apitong? Some kind of South American hardwood,
supposed to be really rot resistant. Gets used a lot around here for trailer
decking.

Phil




----- Original Message -----
>From    : "Larry D. Goss" <rlgoss at evansville.net>
Sent    : Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:40:42 -0500
To      : 'Antique tractor email discussion group' <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Subject : RE: [AT] OT Barn floor question


>Thanks, Charlie -- and everybody else who has chimed in.  When I
restored this windmill the FIRST time, I was led to believe that there
were two woods that were preferred -- cedar and poplar.  I had both
available, but chose to use poplar because it's a LOT clearer.  BTW-
this advice came from a windmill historical and restoration group.  I
figured they knew what they were talking about.  Well as it turns out,
there probably isn't a worse wood to use for exterior work than poplar,
and that's what I used.

The whole thing fell apart in about five years.  Now I've got to start
from scratch and do it all over again.  In talking with a wood worker
this week, he recommended redwood or cedar.  I don't like either one.
Redwood splits too easily, and cedar has too many knots.  I really would
prefer teak or cypress.  Now, I'm talking BIG BUCKS!  

What I'm more likely to do is to use the treated lumber that Lowe's and
Home Depot sell for deck construction.  There was no way I would have
considered this material when I was employed at the university and using
their wood shop for all the mill work --- no way to isolate the area to
protect people and the environment from arsenic.  But I have a contact
with a complete woodshop with filtered dust collectors on everything.
If he'll work with me to do the resawing and other operations in his
shop, then I may go that route.  I wanted some feedback on the synthetic
stuff so I would know whether or not that's a viable option.  It sounds
like it isn't.  I don't want the salt treated lumber either.  That's
what I had in the floor of my trailer, and it didn't last.

I notice that Home Depot is now posting a safety sheet by the bins where
they store their treated lumber.  It's kind of a consumer's edition of
an MSDS and gives all the precautions to be followed in working with the
arsenic-treated stuff.

Does anybody have a good source for cypress?  THAT'S what I really would
like to use.  I doubt very much that I would ever find locust or Osage
Orange in a form and in enough quantity to do the job.

FWIW, the windmill is a Flint & Walling model 26 on a 35-foot steel
tower.  Ten-foot diameter wheel, seven-foot tail.

Larry   

-----Original Message-----
From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of charlie hill
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 6:13 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] OT Barn floor question

Larry,  I was looking at some of that stuff yesterday.  It was used for 
parking pads at some beach cottages where there are restrictions on how
much 
ground can be covered by concrete or asphalt.  The decking has been
there 
for a few years and it doesn't seem to be weathering any better than
salt 
treated wood.   Some of the boards are starting to warp and twist a bit.

Also, a friend of mine used the stuff extensively for decks and benches
off 
the rear of his new house.  (now about 5 years old)  I was over there
last 
year and noticed that I could drag my finger nails over the decking
lightly 
and scrape the surface off.  It appears that UV has begun to attack the 
surface.

I'd think you would be better off with cedar or juniper for your
windmill.

Charlie



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry D. Goss" <rlgoss at evansville.net>
To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'" 
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Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:57 PM
Subject: RE: [AT] OT Barn floor question


> What's your experience with it, Warren?  Seriously, I MAY want to use
it
> for some of the wheel and tail of a windmill.  If it can be machined
and
> still be impervious to weathering, it would be good for some parts.
>
> Larry
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of WF Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 10:46 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: RE: [AT] OT Barn floor question
>
>> I wonder how a floor made of the new synthetic decking material that
>> Home Depot and Lowe's has for sale would work?  It would let the
urine
>
> I wouldn't recommend that stuff for an outhouse, and that's putting it
> mildly.
>
> Warren
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