[AT] tri-axle trailer question

[CEE VILL]

The other interesting point is that the manufacturers rated weight is what 
NYS uses to determine liscensing requirements.  For several years I 
registered a 24,000 gvw truck at 18,000 thinking I was O.K. with a non 
classified liscense.  I got away with it but when I realized I was in 
violation, it seemed it would be less expensive to test for the class C and 
be legal than to pay the fines if  busted, so I did.  In this area, the 
troopers make a real career of setting up truck check points. They have 
special squads that do only that, along with hazmat, etc.

Charlie V. in WNY




>From: "Michael P. Maynard" <mmaynard at rochester.rr.com>
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>Subject: RE: [AT] tri-axle trailer question
>Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:55:09 -0500
>
>Not true steve, look at this site http://www.nysdmv.com/forms/cdl101.pdf 
>you
>must have a class A, or a Class A endorsement to tow anything over 10000
>pounds legally in NY.  To even drive a truck with a gvw over 18000, you 
>need
>at least a Class C non-CDL.  A normal Class D license does not allow you to
>drive over 18000 GVW, or tow more than 10000.
>
>Not that I pay any attention to it... ;-)
>
>Mike
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Steve W.
>Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 11:04 PM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>Subject: Re: [AT] tri-axle trailer question
>
>Only IF the towing vehicle has a GCWR of more than 26,000 pounds.
>
>It is a requirement like this that is catching the Florida people. They
>buy some of these new
>vehicles with HEAVY tow ratings and then find out that federal law
>requires them to have a
>CDL.
>
>Steve Williams
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Michael P. Maynard" <mmaynard at rochester.rr.com>
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>Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 2:03 PM
>Subject: RE: [AT] tri-axle trailer question
>
>
> > Cecil, Also keep one thing in mind.  In the wonderful state of New
>York...
> > you are unable to legally tow a trailer at a weight of over 10k with a
> > regular class D License....   In order to tow any more than the 10k,
>NY
> > requires you to obtain a Class A CDL!!!
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Gotta love NY
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Cecil E
>Monson
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 1:06 PM
> > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > Subject: Re: [AT] tri-axle trailer question
> >
> > > You are correct Cecil, the build tag lists the RPO codes and the GVW
> > > only. I just looked through
> > > my RPO catalog and found nothing on combination weight ratings.
>Those
> > > usually start with
> > > C5 , C6 ,or C7 with a letter after them. There are a couple others
>for
> > > special purpose vehicles
> > > as well.
> > >
> > > Steve Williams
> > > Near Cooperstown NY
> >
> >
> > When I bought my truck, I asked the salesman what the rear axle
> > ratio was and he used his book and the codes in the glove compartment
>to
> > tell me what it was. That's how I knew about the codes and I was
>hoping
> > there was a link to combination weight ratings.
> >
> > My Dodge 2500 RAM with the Cummins diesel weighs just under 7K#
> > and is rated to tow a 10K load from what I can figure out. This would
> > seem to me to give it about 18K# capacity for towing. If I had a
>trailer
> > that weighed 2K# and an 11K# load, that with the 8K# on the truck
>would
> > put me over by about 3K#.
> >
> > I was hoping, because the GMC dump truck had duals on the rear,
> > that it would have at least a 22K# total load capacity. But, I can't
> > find anything on it. It is for certain that the truck could handle the
> > 1800# tongue weight if it were a gooseneck but I have no idea what the
> > welded pintle hitch could carry. It might carry the 1800# easily and
> > safely for all I know.
> >
> > All this to try not to pay the $300 the bandits want to haul my
> > antique JD 2010 crawler the 45 miles to our new property. Oh well.....
> >
> > Cecil
> > --
> > The nicest thing about telling the truth is you never have to wonder
> > what you said.
> >
> > Cecil E Monson
> > Lucille Hand-Monson
> > Mountainville, New York   Just a little east of the North Pole
> >
> > Allis Chalmers tractors and equipment
> >
> > Free advice
> >
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