[AT] Grain Binders and nudity....

[Larry D. Goss]

I'm taking a slightly different approach to the problem, Tim.  I "own"
literally thousands of photographs and other documents with historical
appeal.  I have been given them by relatives who know I'm in the process
of "preserving" them for our family heritage.  They aren't really
"owned" by me at all, but I am at least the current trustee of them.  I
recognize that ANYTHING you put on the Internet has very tenuous
protection from being copied, so I don't and won't post them there.
Eventually, the whole collection is probably going to find its way to a
select number of libraries at locations close to where the photos and
other documents were originally generated.  In the meantime, I'm
scanning, copying, identifying, and storing everything in digital form
so I can make multiple copies of the whole set of "goodies" for a number
of family members who are spread across the country.  I want the family
to have "fun" with the materials before they come under the control of
an organization.

The thing that has prompted my "dispersion" of the materials as fast and
as thoroughly as I can is that copies of some of the images that I "own"
are already under the control of libraries and other collection sites I
have visited.  There is no way I'm going to pay those organizations for
the "privilege" of using materials that I have the original copy of.
I'm not trying to make money on the stuff.  I just don't want anyone
else to make money off of my work without giving me a cut.

Larry

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Tim Bivens
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 5:26 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Grain Binders and nudity....

I am going to have to agree with most of what Cecil
and Walt have said on this subject but for a somewhat
different reason than has been mentioned. With all due
respect to Guy and others that have mentioned all the
hard work that so many have put into saving these
photos and advertising items. That is precisely the
reason that I hope there are as many copies made of
them as possible. That way there is a better chance
that future generations can have copies of them and
more people can enjoy them. What we leave to future
generations is much more important than copyright
laws. I don't really care how they take the trip
through time or if they are pirated or somebody makes
money off them or whatever. We will all be dead a
hundred years from now and this argument will be long
forgotten but I hope there are some copies of these
around for our great grandkids to enjoy. If I put in a
lot of hard work to preserve an old photograph I would
be glad for anyone that wanted a copy to have it. I
would be much more concerned that it is preserved for
posterity than worrying about whether me or anyone
else makes money off it. The idea of "this is my copy
and it's the only copy you can't have a copy of it" is
a selfish attitude whether it is an individual,
museum, or whoever. I know someone is going to come
back with the argument that the Wisconsin museum is
going to always have a copy but they may not always be
available to to the public. The originals could get
destroyed by fire. They could lose funding for their
website. Etc. There a lots of ways these could become
unavailable to the general public. Why would anyone be
worried about a copyright on something as old as the
1895 Buckeye ad that brought this whole topic up? I
say let anyone that wants to copy let them have a copy
of it. I have a rather nice copy of it copied on
quality photo paper and hanging on my wall right now
(with the garbage cleaned up off the right side).
Probably going to frame it and my kids can have it
when I die. So sue me.

Tim Bivens
Glen Rose, Tex.


--- DAVIESW739 at aol.com wrote:
> The part i can't understand is if these were given
> to the Wis, Histerical 
> com. to post on the net free for all to see then who
> is being damaged if one 
> makes a copy even if he sells it and what can you
> get for a copy anyway. Not much 
> I would assume. And if you put it on your website
> one here and one there who 
> would even know it.  I don't think anybody is going
> to just download everything 
> that they put up and then make their own site and
> charge to see it because 
> that's just plain dumb. Why buy something that is
> free anyway. people sure do 
> get over excited about copyrights.
> Rosie ODonnal sued a local radio station for using
> the name Rosie as if she 
> was the only person in the world with that name, she
> lost of course and Spike 
> Lee sued a Sat. channel for calling itself Spike TV
> he also lost. Some people 
> just go overboard on this stuff. If they were
> loosing big money from someone 
> using their copyright then i say go after them but
> remember its only a picture 
> and there has to many more copies out there owned by
> others. And you can only 
> hold the copyright as the original person who took
> the picture and that only 
> good for a specific time some of these pictures must
> be way out of their 
> original copyright by now. Also even if you make
> changes by adding that sign on the 
> side or correcting bad spots or other things you
> still cnnot copyright it as 
> yours it belongs to the guy who took the picture.
> 
> I say just put them up and let things be as they are
> why make everyone mad as 
> they view the pics with all that garbage that the
> crook doesn't care about 
> anyway.
> Well i have spent to much on this I agree with Cecil
> clean the darn things up 
> and post them to the net and then forget about all
> the work that you have 
> donabeen paid for its all past history by now.
> 
> Walt Davies
> Cooper Hollow Farm
> Monmouth, OR 97361
> 503 623-0460 
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