[AT] Reagan Remembered (by Patti Davis) Off topic but greatreading

[Danny Tabor]

I agree with you Al. I don't think its the rural
schools that are a problem. I think in the cities is
where most of the problems are. But then before
pointing fingers at the school system or teachers.
Maybe we should take a look at the parents. If the
parents don't care, why should the child? Why should
the teachers? Why should the board of education put
decent teachers in that district.
      Just my thoughts.  Wanna talk about Oliver's
Danny
 
  



--- Al Jones <aljones at ncfreedom.net> wrote:
> With all due respect, as I have mentioned earlier
> you really need to
> take some time to visit a school or two.  Believe it
> or not, schools are
> not the amoral, Godless pits that some have made
> them out to be.  I
> agree there are some bad apples out there that need
> to be dealt with.
> However not all are that way and we should be
> careful not to lump the
> good and bad together.
> 
> Al
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On
> Behalf Of bwhdon
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:51 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Reagan Remembered (by Patti Davis)
> Off topic but
> greatreading
> 
> Sure is funny that a lot of kids not getting a good
> education in the
> public
> system are electing to go to a private school, and
> what's wrong with
> this
> testing kids in the public school to see if they
> learned any thing, and
> making the teachers teach them reading , writing and
> arithmetic instead
> of
> sports and computers and no God allowed.
> 
> Don
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 4:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Reagan Remembered (by Patti Davis)
> Off topic but
> greatreading
> 
> 
> > Actually I can read it because my Mother taught me
> to read and write.
> > Real education begins in the home, not in the
> glorified
> > daycare centers we have now.  I do agree Teachers
> have a hard job
> today,
> > with parents shirking their duties and then
> complaining about what
> > happens in the schools because of their lack of
> involvement. However
> on
> > the other side you have the Teachers who believe
> they have the right
> to
> > teach only their beliefs and philosophies
> regardless of what they are
> > supposed to teach. These are the ones who feel
> justified when they
> > confiscate a childs cards that were given to her
> in church but allow
> > others to be given out. Or suspend another student
> because they had
> the
> > gall to want to pray. Or their students are tested
> and come up short
> and
> > they claim it is entirely because they just don't
> have enough money to
> > buy the latest things. These are the things that
> make me dislike some
> > teachers.
> >
> > Steve Williams
> > Near Cooperstown NY
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Al Jones" <aljones at ncfreedom.net>
> > To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 6:11 PM
> > Subject: RE: [AT] Reagan Remembered (by Patti
> Davis) Off topic but
> > greatreading
> >
> >
> > > Walt,
> > >
> > > I have fiddled around with the parts books for
> my old tractors
> enough
> > to
> > > know that what you talk about isn't terribly
> easy.  However, I wish
> > > teaching was that simple.  In teaching just
> knowing a subject matter
> > > isn't enough.  You have to know how to TEACH it.
>  And do it in a way
> > > that reaches every student, regardless of
> learning style, mental,
> > > physical, social, emotional difficulty, etc. 
> And I tell you, from
> > what
> > > I have seen (I teach high school, Agriculture)
> Elementary teachers
> > have
> > > a MUCH harder job that high school teachers in
> some respects,
> > > particularly due to the developmental
> differences  between the ages.
> > It
> > > would terrify me to try to teach a class full of
> second graders!  As
> > to
> > > that third grade teacher, what certification(s)
> does she hold?  What
> > > kind of degree does she have?  What sort of
> supplement does her
> school
> > > system pay in addition to the standard salary? 
> How many years of
> > > service does she have?  My point is, don't put
> down anybody in
> > education
> > > based upon what grade/level/subject they teach. 
> Every link in the
> > chain
> > > is important.
> > >
> > > Make no mistake, I do not intend to belittle any
> other
> > > job/career/profession.  And yes, believe it or
> not, teaching IS a
> > > profession, and it doesn't end with the last
> bell for the students
> to
> > go
> > > home!!
> > >
> > > I would just ask anyone that thinks teaching is
> "easy" or that
> > teachers
> > > don't have a "real job" to go spend a day or two
> in a school.  I
> think
> > > you'll be surprised.  There are two statements I
> live by: First, if
> > you
> > > ate today, thank a farmer.  If you can read
> this, thank a teacher!
> > >
> > > Al
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > > [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On
> Behalf Of
> > > DAVIESW739 at aol.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 4:53 PM
> > > To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > > Subject: Re: [AT] Reagan Remembered (by Patti
> Davis) Off topic but
> > > greatreading
> > >
> > > Al try working on about 100 different pieces of 
> Heavy equipment and
> > > then try
> > > to memorize all of the service manuals and
> remember  that they put
> > news
> > > one
> > > out each year. It took me 20 years to get
> proficient at  my work
> then
> > > they
> > > changed everything.  and they call us dumb
> mechanics, I  always say,
> > > well! Fix
> > > your own car next time if your're so smart.
> > >
> > > If you  are teaching kindergarten up to the 4
> grade what do you
> really
> > > need
> > > to know that  you don't use everyday. And why
> should the person
> > teaching
> > >
> > > calculus get the same  pay as the one who
> teaches basic math.
> 
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