[AT] Misc

[charlie hill]

Spencer,

My complete and only comment on the subject of the "the thinker" thread was
this.   "Sometimes the truth hurts"

I didn't start the thread.  I was not the thin skinned person who was
offended by the politcal joke that was the original message all I said was
"Sometimes the truth hurts"  If I have EVER started any political thread on
this list it has been a LONG time ago and I'm sure I have apologized for it.

All I did was state a true and often proved fact.  "sometimes the truth
hurts.  For that YOU branded me a Zealot and I didn't appreciate it but I
didn't say a word.  Now you have done the same thing that set off Mr Nash to
begin with.  You put something on the list that was viewed by some as
political and it offended some folks.
You did violate your own rules and you can't hide from it now.
Sometimes the truth hurts!

In closing I will quote someone from the list whom you agree with. The quote
is a clip from his message and his signature is at the end.
......
If you truly had the ability to think you wouldn't have posted this to the
list. Last time I checked this was a tractor list not the political forum.

John Nash
jnfromnc at brmemc.net
 From the mountains of Western North Carolina
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Spencer Yost" <yostsw at atis.net>
To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 6:18 PM
Subject: RE: [AT] Misc


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>
> On 7/21/2004 at 5:31 PM Charlie hill wrote:
>
>
> >What's good for the goose is good for the gander my friend.  I never
> >started
> >any of these discussions.  But apparently they are ok as long as they
> speak
> >positively of folks like Edwards with a (D) behind their name.
> >
> >...snip It was just a reminder to you that rules are rules regardless
> >of your point of view.   That's all.
>
> First, I DO follow my own rules.  Your remark implying I don't follow
rules
> is a thinly veiled lash-back rooted in sensitivity resulting from getting
> called to the carpet when you and Don _insulted_(it was not a "joke" by
> anyone's definition) John Nash, by implying that he "doesn't think" .
> Granted, at the time I even said it was a small slight.   It was indeed an
> insult though and not a joke.
>
> Second, let me make this clear because EVERYONE has guessed wrong:  No I
DO
> NOT support Edwards run VP because I think he lack experience and is a
> little too ambitious for my taste.  NOT because he is a "shyster" or some
> other half-cocked insult that would require intimate knowledge of him and
> his character that I don't have.
>
> Third, am I the only one that sees a difference between:
>
> =================
>  NORTH CAROLINA NEWS:
>
> "John Edwards in in the race:  We are big time now!   Now we'll have a
> Christmas tree AND maybe a vice-president that shows up in the White
> House(most years recently North Carolina provides the White House
Christmas
> Tree - a Frasier fir from the mountains).
> =================
>
> and
>
> =================
> Insulting John Nash and calling someone you don't know a "shyster".
> =================
>
> ????
>
> The first is clearly a simple statement; mainly about Christmas trees. The
> last contains two insults.  This is why I detest political discussions.  I
> can't even mention the name of a politician without his opponents rising
up
> like hill of dirt against me, ready to use any vindicative at their
> disposal.  I mentioned his name in the context of:
>
> 1 - Bragging about out Christmas trees in the White house.  HONEST why
else
> would I mention Christmas trees????
> 2 - Brag that a North Carolina was in the news a lot lately
> 3 - Bring to light an interesting story about lion fish
>
> Trust me, I regret posting this whole "NC in the News thing" (or did
> everyone conveniently forget that heading 1/3 of the way into the
message?)
> and the backlash is why I barely participate anymore.   During the last
few
> years there has always been about 30% of the people on this list bent on
> twisting other's words into missives that serves their own ends.  This
> exact reason has been the stated reason of many great ex-members as to why
> they left the ATIS mailing list.
>
> I want to take a vote:  Everyone that thinks my post was really something
> designed to unleash liberal theology on the world,. say so now,.   I am
> ready to shut ATIS down over this foolishness.  I spend coultess hundred
of
> hours and thousands of dollars a year on this and I;'ll be damned if
> mean-spirited and petty remarks like the ones I have seen today are going
> to take it over.
>
>
> Spencer Yost
> Owner, ATIS
> Plow the Net!
> http://www.atis.net
>
>
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