Battery/electrical Questions.....Was: Re: [AT]desulphatingbatterychargers

[Michael Miller]

Jerry and all...



Thanks a lot for the help.  I asked about it being positive ground and he 
said it has been positive for as long as he can remember.



As far as trying to revive the battery.....TSC has a Group one battery on 
sale for like $26 plus core.  It has three cells, that means it is 6 volt 
right?  He will probably want to go that route.  Easier/cheaper than fooling 
around paying me to try to revive the old one.


Mike


>From: "Jerry Rhodes" <jlrhod at paulding-net.com>
>Reply-To: Antique tractor email discussion group 
><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Subject: Re: Battery/electrical Questions.....Was: Re: 
>[AT]desulphatingbatterychargers
>Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 14:20:43 -0400
>
>Mike also check the ground, it should be neg on the H my 41 H is neg and 
>the
>manual says neg ground, and YES use face sheild, rubber gloves and old
>clothes, good luck
>Jerry NW Ohio
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at cox.net>
>To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 10:56 AM
>Subject: Re: Battery/electrical Questions.....Was: Re: [AT]
>desulphatingbatterychargers
>
>
> > Mike,  I assume the H has a generator.  If so it doesn't need a battery 
>to
> > run after it is started.  If it will not run without the battery or if 
>the
> > battery is going dead while it runs the generator is not putting out.  
>You
> > can test it by disconnecting the battery after the engine is running.  
>If
>it
> > keeps running use a volt meter between the battery cables (with the
>battery
> > disconnected) to see what voltage it is putting out.
> >
> > As for the battery, dump it out, rinse it out and re-fill it with the
>proper
> > acid/water mixture to get the specific gravity right, give it a charge 
>and
> > see if it works.
> >
> > Wear eye protection!
> >
> > Charlie
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Miller" <sweetcorn70 at hotmail.com>
> > To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 8:37 AM
> > Subject: Battery/electrical Questions.....Was: Re: [AT] desulphating
> > batterychargers
> >
> >
> > > At the farm I work at, there is an H.  It is still on 6 volt.  The
>battery
> > > seems to take a charge, but it'll only run for 10-15 minutes after you
> > > charge it and then the battery is dead(not even enough juice to make 
>it
> > > fire).  The battery also goes dead if you charge it up then leave it 
>set
> > for
> > > an hour or so.  Is that battery junk?   Would it help it to dump the
>acid
> > > and refill it, according to what you do below?  It hisses and bubbles
>when
> > > you leave it charging.  One thing, when I first started this project 
>the
> > > electrolyte level in the battery was low in all cells, and the boss 
>just
> > had
> > > me fill it up with tap water(I know, big no no, but he's a lot older
>than
> > I
> > > am).  Could that be the problem?
> > >
> > > Now, I would say that the tractor isn't charging, and the boss says it
> > never
> > > has charged right.  Any places to start on that one(IE, how do I test 
>to
> > see
> > > if it is charging??)?  I am not sure if they polarized the generator
>after
> > > they had it rebuilt or not.  It is set up on Positive ground, is that
> > right?
> > >   All my farmalls are negative ground, but the one has been converted 
>to
> > 12
> > > volt and the other is a lot newer(the other has an armstrong starter).
>It
> > > could probably use new cables, the ones on it are pretty old.  The
>ammeter
> > > read "0" all the time.
> > >
> > > Sorry for all the stupid questions, but my boss's dad bought this 
>thing
> > new
> > > and his son restored it so I'd like to get it running at least good
>enough
> > > to pull wagons with it.  I don't know a lot about electrical
> > > systems(maintanance batteries in particular) and I'd rather ask stupid
> > > questions that blow/burn something up.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Jerry Rhodes" <jlrhod at paulding-net.com>
> > > >Reply-To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > > ><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > >To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > >Subject: Re: [AT] desulphating battery chargers
> > > >Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 23:22:51 -0400
> > > >
> > > >When I get them, they are "old" per the cart dealer, set out all
>winter,
> > > >etc... I top them off with straight acid, charge them and load test 
>if
> > the
> > > >hidramer(?) reading is above 1220, if not, and the load test is no 
>good
>I
> > > >dump them to a tank that I use for cleaning parts, I refill with
>straight
> > > >acid  and adjust with water to 1250, re charge and load test again.
> > > >
> > > >Then reinstall in the machine, normally they are out of here in about 
>a
> > > >week, i.e.. bought, sold, traded or owner picks up and I normally do
>not
> > > >see
> > > >then again. I get my acid from NAPA.
> > > >
> > > >The ones I have in my EZ-GOcart, the Cushman cart and the ones ready
>for
> > my
> > > >Cushman Truckster are about 7 yrs old, I rework them (18) about two
> > months
> > > >ago, the Cushman cart has been in 2 parades and 2 fairs and 1 
>feamarket
> > (1
> > > >day) and I just recharged them today (12 hrs) so they hold up well,
>hope
> > > >this answers your ?, thanks
> > > >Jerry NW Ohio
> > > >
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