Battery/electrical Questions.....Was: Re:[AT]desulphatingbatterychargers

charlie hill chill8 at cox.net
Sun Jul 18 22:26:44 PDT 2004


Good choice Mike.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Miller" <sweetcorn70 at hotmail.com>
To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: Battery/electrical Questions.....Was:
Re:[AT]desulphatingbatterychargers


> Jerry and all...
>
>
>
> Thanks a lot for the help.  I asked about it being positive ground and he
> said it has been positive for as long as he can remember.
>
>
>
> As far as trying to revive the battery.....TSC has a Group one battery on
> sale for like $26 plus core.  It has three cells, that means it is 6 volt
> right?  He will probably want to go that route.  Easier/cheaper than
fooling
> around paying me to try to revive the old one.
>
>
> Mike
>
>
> >From: "Jerry Rhodes" <jlrhod at paulding-net.com>
> >Reply-To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> ><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >Subject: Re: Battery/electrical Questions.....Was: Re:
> >[AT]desulphatingbatterychargers
> >Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 14:20:43 -0400
> >
> >Mike also check the ground, it should be neg on the H my 41 H is neg and
> >the
> >manual says neg ground, and YES use face sheild, rubber gloves and old
> >clothes, good luck
> >Jerry NW Ohio
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at cox.net>
> >To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 10:56 AM
> >Subject: Re: Battery/electrical Questions.....Was: Re: [AT]
> >desulphatingbatterychargers
> >
> >
> > > Mike,  I assume the H has a generator.  If so it doesn't need a
battery
> >to
> > > run after it is started.  If it will not run without the battery or if
> >the
> > > battery is going dead while it runs the generator is not putting out.
> >You
> > > can test it by disconnecting the battery after the engine is running.
> >If
> >it
> > > keeps running use a volt meter between the battery cables (with the
> >battery
> > > disconnected) to see what voltage it is putting out.
> > >
> > > As for the battery, dump it out, rinse it out and re-fill it with the
> >proper
> > > acid/water mixture to get the specific gravity right, give it a charge
> >and
> > > see if it works.
> > >
> > > Wear eye protection!
> > >
> > > Charlie
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Michael Miller" <sweetcorn70 at hotmail.com>
> > > To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 8:37 AM
> > > Subject: Battery/electrical Questions.....Was: Re: [AT] desulphating
> > > batterychargers
> > >
> > >
> > > > At the farm I work at, there is an H.  It is still on 6 volt.  The
> >battery
> > > > seems to take a charge, but it'll only run for 10-15 minutes after
you
> > > > charge it and then the battery is dead(not even enough juice to make
> >it
> > > > fire).  The battery also goes dead if you charge it up then leave it
> >set
> > > for
> > > > an hour or so.  Is that battery junk?   Would it help it to dump the
> >acid
> > > > and refill it, according to what you do below?  It hisses and
bubbles
> >when
> > > > you leave it charging.  One thing, when I first started this project
> >the
> > > > electrolyte level in the battery was low in all cells, and the boss
> >just
> > > had
> > > > me fill it up with tap water(I know, big no no, but he's a lot older
> >than
> > > I
> > > > am).  Could that be the problem?
> > > >
> > > > Now, I would say that the tractor isn't charging, and the boss says
it
> > > never
> > > > has charged right.  Any places to start on that one(IE, how do I
test
> >to
> > > see
> > > > if it is charging??)?  I am not sure if they polarized the generator
> >after
> > > > they had it rebuilt or not.  It is set up on Positive ground, is
that
> > > right?
> > > >   All my farmalls are negative ground, but the one has been
converted
> >to
> > > 12
> > > > volt and the other is a lot newer(the other has an armstrong
starter).
> >It
> > > > could probably use new cables, the ones on it are pretty old.  The
> >ammeter
> > > > read "0" all the time.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for all the stupid questions, but my boss's dad bought this
> >thing
> > > new
> > > > and his son restored it so I'd like to get it running at least good
> >enough
> > > > to pull wagons with it.  I don't know a lot about electrical
> > > > systems(maintanance batteries in particular) and I'd rather ask
stupid
> > > > questions that blow/burn something up.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Jerry Rhodes" <jlrhod at paulding-net.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > > > ><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > > >To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> > > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > > >Subject: Re: [AT] desulphating battery chargers
> > > > >Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 23:22:51 -0400
> > > > >
> > > > >When I get them, they are "old" per the cart dealer, set out all
> >winter,
> > > > >etc... I top them off with straight acid, charge them and load test
> >if
> > > the
> > > > >hidramer(?) reading is above 1220, if not, and the load test is no
> >good
> >I
> > > > >dump them to a tank that I use for cleaning parts, I refill with
> >straight
> > > > >acid  and adjust with water to 1250, re charge and load test again.
> > > > >
> > > > >Then reinstall in the machine, normally they are out of here in
about
> >a
> > > > >week, i.e.. bought, sold, traded or owner picks up and I normally
do
> >not
> > > > >see
> > > > >then again. I get my acid from NAPA.
> > > > >
> > > > >The ones I have in my EZ-GOcart, the Cushman cart and the ones
ready
> >for
> > > my
> > > > >Cushman Truckster are about 7 yrs old, I rework them (18) about two
> > > months
> > > > >ago, the Cushman cart has been in 2 parades and 2 fairs and 1
> >feamarket
> > > (1
> > > > >day) and I just recharged them today (12 hrs) so they hold up well,
> >hope
> > > > >this answers your ?, thanks
> > > > >Jerry NW Ohio
> > > > >
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