[AT] Diesel Starting Safety Reminder

Ralph Goff alfg at sasktel.net
Mon Feb 23 20:30:47 PST 2004


Guess I"ll have to read these posts a little closer. Now I see. But I still
think it would take a pretty steep hill to roll start any of my diesels. The
newest one has a solenoid that shuts off the fuel to the injector pump when
key is off. The 2090 is shut off by a knob/cable control in cab. When I shut
the engine off, that knob stays in the shut off position until the next time
I want to start it. . The older 730 diesel could only be shut off by moving
the throttle lever right up to closed position. Therefore its unlikely to
roll start.
Agco may have a little different setup, I am not familiar with them. Don't
they have a park lock position for the trans shift lever?

Ralph in Sask.
http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/lgoff/latestpage.html

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael P. Maynard <mmaynard at rochester.rr.com>
To: 'Antique tractor email discussion group' <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 9:32 PM
Subject: RE: [AT] Diesel Starting Safety Reminder


> Ralph, he wasn't saying anything about a starter switch at all....  His
> post was saying that even without any electrical devices turned on, his
> diesel will start by pop-starting...  There isn't any safety switch that
> would fit his instance.  It seems there would have to be some sort of
> electrical fuel disconnect to solve his problem.
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Goff
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 9:44 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Diesel Starting Safety Reminder
>
> Robert, I'm a little surprised that a 1995 tractor would not have a
> neutral
> safety start switch built right in to the system. Most tractors have had
> it
> for years starting back in the 60s. Occasionally they do fail and need
> to be
> replaced. The one on my 730 Case works and its 40 years old. Got to have
> both shifters in neutral before the starter will work.
>
> Ralph in Sask.
> http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/lgoff/latestpage.html
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: R Mull <rbobmull at comcast.net>
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 4:02 PM
> Subject: [AT] Diesel Starting Safety Reminder
>
>
> > I have not ever seen this reminder on the list. We have a 1995
> Agco-Allis
> > 5670 diesel and I was wondering if it would roll start with the key
> switch
> > in the off position. I tried it today and the answer is yes! It has a
> pull
> > knob to stop the engine. If that knob is not pulled out , and you
> accidently
> > depress the clutch and let it out while the tractor is rolling it will
> start
> > very easy. Sometimes we stop the engine on the tractor on a hill (to
> get
> off
> > and hook a chain to a log, etc.). This could be a real unsafe
> condition if
> > the engine decides to turn over a couple of revolutions. Also if a
> child
> was
> > to climb into the seat and pushed in the clutch pedal.
> >
> > I would think that there are other models and makes that will do the
> same
> > thing.
> >
> > This tractor has a parking brake, but we are not in the habit of using
> it(
> > hard to release it with the large stomachs and  stiff muscles that  my
> Dad
> > and I have.
> >
> > An Antique tractor with a magneto that doesn't have a kill switch
> could
> also
> > do this.
> >
> > Dad and I talked at length about this today and both of us are sure
> that
> we
> > will take the necessary precautions in the future.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Robert Mull
> > Woodstock, Georgia
> >
> >
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