[AJD] Mike's B - crankcase

[Frank]

Mike:
thanks for the kind words!
hoped I would save some heart ache..........
Frank
gremaux at tein.net
Central Montana
http://www.angelfire.com/mt/deeregp/index.html
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert M. Massengale" <ltcmikem at ktc.com>
To: "Antique John Deere mailinglist" 
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Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AJD] Mike's B - crankcase


> Frank -
>
> I learned to respect your advice a long time ago... I'm not going there... 
> not going
> there... not going.  Fortunately I have a tractor buddy and she has small 
> hands so
> we're diving in through the top.  BTW, my tractor buddy is my 15 yo 
> daughter who is
> seven months out from an unrestricted drivers license and whose world 
> starts and
> stops with dreams of a late 40's to early 50's pickup truck.  Told her the 
> B would be
> a good project for us to learn to work together on... and we weren't even 
> going to
> look at pickups until the B was up and running.
>
> Mike
> Robert M. Massengale
> Fredericksburg, Texas 78624
>
>> Mike:
>> inside that is the oil pump...............yes it does make a bigger
>> hole but you must still take off the top cover and when you get into
>> the top you can take ALL the oil lines loose before you take out the
>> pump................don't go there unless you really have
>> to..........don't go there unless you really have to............don't
>> go there unless you really have to!
>>
>> Frank
>> gremaux at tein.net
>> Central Montana
>> http://www.angelfire.com/mt/deeregp/index.html
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Robert M. Massengale" <ltcmikem at ktc.com>
>> To: "Antique John Deere mailinglist"
>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 9:01 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AJD] Mike's B - crankcase
>>
>>
>> > Duane, Bill, Ron, Don, Terry and Dave,
>> >
>> > Thank you all for your suggestions and guidance on flushing the
>> > crankcase. I've trimmed your individual responses as the thread was
>> > getting too long to get through Spencer's filters.  As anxious as I
>> > am to pour some gas in the tank and turn that flywheel, I'm going to
>> > hold off and do a good cleaning of the crankcase.
>> >
>> > I was caught off guard when I finally realized the "crankcase cover"
>> > everyone was talking about removing to get at the muck and sludge
>> > was on top of the crankcase. I expected to be going at this from the
>> > bottom of the engine.  I had tentatively identified my entry point
>> > as the round 6½" and 4½" covers (one on top of the other) just
>> > forward of the drain plug and oil filter.  What's above these
>> > covers? It looks like if I removed them it would make a much bigger
>> > hole to push the muck through than the drain plug hole.
>> >
>> > Thanks again for all this great help.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Robert M. Masengale
>> > Fredericksburg, Texas 78624
>> >
>> >> As I work toward getting the B ready to start I figured it would be
>> >> a good idea to change the engine oil.  When I pulled the drain plug
>> >> I was horrified at the grey colored muck and at least a gallon of
>> >> water that came out of the crankcase. Then pulled the oil filter
>> >> and got volumes more of that nasty grey sludge and more water.  The
>> >> mess that came out filled a 5 gal paint bucket to within 4" of the
>> >> top.  Nothing came out that even resembled oil, in texture or
>> >> color.  I thought at first the block or head must be cracked, but
>> >> the water is clear and the water in the radiator is antifreeze
>> >> green.  Don advised me that it's not unusual for old tractors to
>> >> get water in the crankcase, so that eased my concern some.
>> >> However, I've got to get that stuff out of the crankcase.  I sure
>> >> can't run the engine with that mess in there.  I picked up five
>> >> gallons of diesel after church with the intention of putting that
>> >> in the crankcase and letting it sit/soak. Then after a day or so
>> >> rocking the B forward & back to get a sloshing action going to help
>> >> loosen and break up the sludge to help it drain out.
>> >>
>> >> Would appreciate any guidance the list can offer me on this.  What
>> >> about the transmission and differential fluids... should I
>> >> anticipate the same problem in those areas?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in advance.
>> >> Mike
>> >> Robert M. Massengale
>> >> Fredericksburg, Texas 78624
>> >>
>> >>
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