[AJD] Mike's B - crankcase

Duane Larson jdlarson at comcast.net
Mon Dec 20 09:20:52 PST 2004


Mike,
That would likely be the oil pump mechanism, and the oil filter.  The pump
has lines attached to it, so it is not that easy to remove just to get a
larger hole.  You have to remove them from above.  The normal access point
is by removing the plate on top of the crankcase that the crankcase breather
is a part of - that is large, and by rotating the flywheel (CAREFULLY IF
YOUR ARM/HAND IS IN THERE) to gain access to different parts of the bottom
of the crankcase.

It is easy for us to assume knowledge that you may not have - you are on a
steep learning curve working with your first tractor, so please don't be
afraid to ask any and all questions.  The next JD will be much easier (and
I'll bet there will be a next one :).
Duane

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert M. Massengale" <ltcmikem at ktc.com>
To: "Antique John Deere mailinglist"
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Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [AJD] Mike's B - crankcase


> Duane, Bill, Ron, Don, Terry and Dave,
>
> Thank you all for your suggestions and guidance on flushing the crankcase.
I've
> trimmed your individual responses as the thread was getting too long to
get through
> Spencer's filters.  As anxious as I am to pour some gas in the tank and
turn that
> flywheel, I'm going to hold off and do a good cleaning of the crankcase.
>
> I was caught off guard when I finally realized the "crankcase cover"
everyone was
> talking about removing to get at the muck and sludge was on top of the
crankcase.
> I expected to be going at this from the bottom of the engine.  I had
tentatively
> identified my entry point as the round 6½" and 4½" covers (one on top of
the other)
> just forward of the drain plug and oil filter.  What's above these covers?
It looks like
> if I removed them it would make a much bigger hole to push the muck
through than
> the drain plug hole.
>
> Thanks again for all this great help.
>
> Mike
>
> Robert M. Masengale
> Fredericksburg, Texas 78624
>
> > As I work toward getting the B ready to start I figured it would be a
> > good idea to change the engine oil.  When I pulled the drain plug I
> > was horrified at the grey colored muck and at least a gallon of water
> > that came out of the crankcase. Then pulled the oil filter and got
> > volumes more of that nasty grey sludge and more water.  The mess that
> > came out filled a 5 gal paint bucket to within 4" of the top.  Nothing
> > came out that even resembled oil, in texture or color.  I thought at
> > first the block or head must be cracked, but the water is clear and
> > the water in the radiator is antifreeze green.  Don advised me that
> > it's not unusual for old tractors to get water in the crankcase, so
> > that eased my concern some.  However, I've got to get that stuff out
> > of the crankcase.  I sure can't run the engine with that mess in
> > there.  I picked up five gallons of diesel after church with the
> > intention of putting that in the crankcase and letting it sit/soak.
> > Then after a day or so rocking the B forward & back to get a sloshing
> > action going to help loosen and break up the sludge to help it drain
> > out.
> >
> > Would appreciate any guidance the list can offer me on this.  What
> > about the transmission and differential fluids... should I anticipate
> > the same problem in those areas?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > Mike
> > Robert M. Massengale
> > Fredericksburg, Texas 78624
> >
> >
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