[AT] Ford 8 N

Wed Dec 8 14:23:56 PST 2004

I have 2 9N's with 6' finish mowers.  I have an over running clutch on the 
one with a 3 pt that also occasionally used to power a bush hog. (the M with 
3 pt does that job now).  One advantage of the ORC is that it keeps the 
gears from binding so you can shift when you stop.  This is a problem on the 
one with a belly mower... but where would you put the ORC?  Unlike the 8N 
with its' constant mesh transmission, the early N's have sliding gear 
transmissions.

For those who may not know, there is now an aftermarket kit to convert the 
N's to live PTO.  It's made by Zane Sherman in TN who also sells the 
position control for the 9N's.  I think it's a little pricey, but it has 
some expensive components.

George Willer

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert L. Holtzer" <rholtzer at earthlink.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Ford 8 N

> My son has the N with mower.  The overriding clutch is an excellent 
> suggestion!!  The lift/PTO system leaves something to be desired but it 
> gets tolerable after a while!
>
> Bob Holtzer
>
> At 05:29 PM 12/7/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>>The Ford N is a nice enough little tractor, but it has one limitation that 
>>can drive you nuts: the hydraulic pump is PTO driven, so you can only lift 
>>the hitch when the PTO is engaged, and you can only engage the PTO when 
>>the clutch is depressed. So using the Ford N with a brush cutter can be a 
>>frustrating chore. When I sold Woods cutters to customers with Ford N 
>>tractors, I would insist that they also buy an overrunning coupler. 
>>Otherwise the inertia of the blades would push the the tractor forward, 
>>even when the clutch was depressed. This usually isn't a problem when 
>>cutting in an open field, but can be one when heading for a fence row or 
>>barn. :-(
>>
>>And a loader looks like a good idea, but it is very hard on the steering, 
>>and very hard to steer, unless you have a counterweight on the back.
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>Richard Fink Sr wrote:
>>>Thank you Carl it has the front bucket arrange meant on it that i don't 
>>>want. i want it for the 3 point rear for brush hog and post hole auger. I 
>>>did have a lot of post holes from a well that went dry but they were to 
>>>hard to move around.[he he]
>>>R Fink
>>>PA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>At 09:46 AM 12/7/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>>>
>>>>Mike Sloane wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hydraulic Lifters? The 8N has a flat head engine that was first used in 
>>>>>the 1939 9N. Hydraulic lifters weren't even dreamed of back then. :-) 
>>>>>It is pretty common for the lifters so wear out and not all that hard 
>>>>>to replace, once you remove the hood, manifold, head, etc. You need to 
>>>>>buy a pair of inexpensive special adjusting wrenches. And you might 
>>>>>think about replacing all of them if you go to all that trouble (and 
>>>>>check the valves out too). Just hope that you don't have to drop the 
>>>>>oil pan, as that required removing the front axle. Also, think about 
>>>>>joining the ATIS Ford-Ferguson list - there is at least on guy who can 
>>>>>get Ford parts for you at a pretty good discount.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>Richard Fink Sr wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have a gentlemen that wants to sell me a Ford 8N. he says it is a 48 
>>>>>>and needs a valve lifter. did they have lifters in them. hyd or solid. 
>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>R Fink
>>>>>>PA
>>>>>
>>>>Hi Richard;  Mike is right. They had solid tappets, then 
>>>>adjustable--adjustables are used in replacement.
>>>>Removing the front axle is not that big a deal if you have help-- but 
>>>>that's true of splitting any tractor.  Only thing with N's is that they 
>>>>are generally smaller...      One tip--on the early 8N's up to serial 
>>>>#216989, there are no replacement parts for steering sectors, and if the 
>>>>steering is really loose, it probably can't effectively be adjusted out. 
>>>>After that SN, a better design was introduced.   If the hydraulics work 
>>>>ok, and all you need is motor work, it looks good.
>>>>Parts are readily available for this 56 year old tractor.  Even from the 
>>>>Ford/NH dealer-- I just bought a muffler system last week-- pipe, 
>>>>muffler--one unit, for $22.95.   They don't ask for much and they work 
>>>>hard.
>>>>Carl in Vermont,  1949 8N, and a 1945 2N
>>>>
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>>The greatest of faults, I should say, is to be conscious of none. -Thomas 
>>Carlyle, writer (1795-1881)
>>
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