[AJD] GP woth Bean axle??

Paul O mrgp at fwi.com
Tue Dec 7 07:47:43 PST 2004 

That is true, Charlie, but look at what you have when you succeed.
Paul O

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chas. C." <jdgp1931 at chartermi.net>
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Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??


> LOL. OK Paul. B might be easier to find than a beaner though.
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul O" <mrgp at fwi.com>
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> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>
>
>> Charlie
>> Give up on the B and go gor the beaner!!!!
>> Paul O
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Chas. C." <jdgp1931 at chartermi.net>
>> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 8:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>
>>
>>>I will keep my eyes open for a 4 row for you. I didn't even know they 
>>>made a 4 row. Dad had a 3 row cultivator and corn planter. The cultivator 
>>>burned up in a barn fire caused by lightning. The corn planter was stored 
>>>in another barn. He managed to use the 3 row planter by tying 1 of the 
>>>rows up and using only the remaining 2. Ever try to cultivate with a 2 
>>>row cultivator when the corn was planted with a 3 row planter?
>>> I do recall your article. Unfortunately I don't remember the details. 
>>> Little senior moment problem. Another reason I am not locating a bean 
>>> tractor is I have also been searching for a 37 B. (year of my birth)
>>> Charlie
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Paul O" <mrgp at fwi.com>
>>> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
>>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 4:43 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>>
>>>
>>>> Charlie
>>>> Bean tractors were manufactured from 1931 to 1935. If you recall the 
>>>> article I wrote for Two-Cylinder a few years ago, I estimated there 
>>>> were 120 built. There are more than 120 bean axles around because the 
>>>> bean axle was furnished whenever someone ordered a repair axle.
>>>>
>>>> You need to widen your search for a bean tractor. I have talked to 
>>>> people who grew up thinking all GP tractors had the wide front axle 
>>>> because they never saw anything else. You need to look to the East 
>>>> where edible beans were grown.
>>>>
>>>> I understand your frustration. I cannot find a four-row cultivator. In 
>>>> fact, as far as I know, there is only one in existance. There should 
>>>> have been as many cultivators built as there were bean tractors. Where 
>>>> are they?
>>>>
>>>> Paul  O
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Chas. C." <jdgp1931 at chartermi.net>
>>>> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
>>>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 3:40 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Funny, if most were shipped to Michigan how come I can't find one? I 
>>>>> know your correct on that however. What years were bean tractors 
>>>>> manufactured? I have been told that some standards were converted 
>>>>> also. I am not sure but what my dad's was. Unfortunately I don't have 
>>>>> that tractor. I sure wish I did but at the time he let it go I had no 
>>>>> interest in it.
>>>>> Charlie
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Paul O" <mrgp at fwi.com>
>>>>> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
>>>>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 2:01 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>> As far as I know, most if not all, bean tractors were shipped to 
>>>>>> Michigan. Of course there could have been one or  more exceptions. 
>>>>>> Also, in the last few years, everyone knows tractors have been 
>>>>>> shipped to all points around the country. Unfortunately, we cannot 
>>>>>> learn anything about bean tractors built prior to 1934 from the 
>>>>>> archives . Records of bean options were not kept in 1931-2-3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul O
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Chas. C." <jdgp1931 at chartermi.net>
>>>>>> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
>>>>>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 5:21 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul,
>>>>>>> Is it unusual for a bean tractor to end up in California? I thought 
>>>>>>> that most were native to this part of the country.
>>>>>>> John, congratulations on your find. Wish I could locate one.
>>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Paul O" <mrgp at fwi.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
>>>>>>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 8:07 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>> The serial number on your GP is in the correct range for a bean 
>>>>>>>> tractor. Most (not quite all) bean tractors had a swing seat. Also, 
>>>>>>>> all bean tractors had a brace (shaped like an H, part AC855R) from 
>>>>>>>> one chain case to the other. The horizontal part was located just 
>>>>>>>> under the platform. The top of the vertical "legs" shows just above 
>>>>>>>> the platform. The rear wheels were mounted for the widest possible 
>>>>>>>> tread width. I would be interested in hearing from you as to what 
>>>>>>>> you find. I am keeping a roster of all the bean tractors I hear 
>>>>>>>> about. Please let me know the results if you have its' ship 
>>>>>>>> destination researched. Thanks!
>>>>>>>> Paul O
>>>>>>>> P.S. I would like to know what those California lugs looked like.
>>>>>>>> PO
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "John Boehm" <rustyacres at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "Antique John Deere" 
>>>>>>>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:39 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My 20 year old son, Matt, negotiated a deal for and
>>>>>>>>> bought a GP on full steel with beautiful Schmeiser
>>>>>>>>> (locally produced here in CA)lugs. Unfortunately, it
>>>>>>>>> had not run since 1955 and someone removed the hood,
>>>>>>>>> magneto, carb, radiator, and many of the parts above
>>>>>>>>> the engine, then loosened the head. It had been out in
>>>>>>>>> the weather that way for who knows how many years, so
>>>>>>>>> the engine is probably in pretty rough shape. We
>>>>>>>>> picked it up a few weeks ago. It was a tough one to
>>>>>>>>> load as a thirty foot tall oak tree was starting to
>>>>>>>>> grow aound one front wheel. After we cut down the
>>>>>>>>> tree, we hooked up to the winch, but one brake was
>>>>>>>>> rusted tight and one front wheel wouldn't turn. On top
>>>>>>>>> of that I couldnt get any closer than about a hundred
>>>>>>>>> yards away, so it was a long pull dragging it up and
>>>>>>>>> onto the trailer with two wheels skidding along all
>>>>>>>>> the way.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyway, it's been sitting here those few weeks both
>>>>>>>>> outside and now inside the shop where Matt started to
>>>>>>>>> do some investigating into its condition. I was out in
>>>>>>>>> the shop looking for something else tonight when the
>>>>>>>>> front axle caught my eye. It looked a lot wider than a
>>>>>>>>> normal GP axle and the tie rod was behind the axle,
>>>>>>>>> instead of in the front. Suddenly it dawned on me that
>>>>>>>>> this must be a "bean" axle. It has casting # C1878R,
>>>>>>>>> which as far as I can determine from the parts
>>>>>>>>> catalog, must be that axle. Is there anything else I
>>>>>>>>> should be looking for? It appears to have a standard
>>>>>>>>> drawbar and is serial # 229508.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any information would be appreciated. Yes, I am proud
>>>>>>>>> of him for finding it and buying it. And hoping he
>>>>>>>>> might be following somewhat in the old man's
>>>>>>>>> footsteps!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> John Boehm
>>>>>>>>> Woodland, CA
>>>>>>>>> Visit my web site at http://vintagetractors.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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